Alcohol Advice for getting off of nightly beer drinking

[tremours]

you dont know that
in your case, maybe.

im struggling wit daily beer drinking, too.
like 3-6 per day, sometimes more st less, everyday tho.

first I used to drink to control my paranoias from smokin pot (like 2-3 7% beers before smoking) now I just drink to be in a better mood, to feel better in general.

Im 30 and been drinking like this, alone, for ~3 years now

hate hard liquors too
but you've got to remember it IS still alkohol.
vodka, beers whatevs

Plus i hear that over 80% of alcoholics are beer drinkers, so go figure

i dont want to come off as a asshole but are you serious, 3-6 beers a day now 3-6 bottles of vodka in a day is a problem, im sorry if im drunk ive had like 16oz of 90%. damn this stuff hurts the throat

 

[Speed King]

You didn't get too much in the way of unpleasant side effects from Camprall? Then again, iirc you benefited from ketamine therapy, so I could see how something like this might have also worked for you. I've heard it is kinda hard to tolerate, but I don't have any experience.

I can see that point. I did have my first dosages of Camprall in a medical setting.

I have experienced headaches, upset gi tract and some insomnia, but weren't that bad and went away pretty soon after beginning treatment.

As always, a persons mileage may very.

 

[FuckinAcidMan]

Honestly I wouldn't drink at all if i could orally consume MXE in little premixed sodas that have complex flavors and varying but clearly labelled doses.

 

[king kpin]

It sounds like your drinking for pain relief and sleep. For fibromyalgia patients, gabapentin is used for pain relief and off label for sleep. Perhaps you can ween off of the beer and switch to a prescription that's more effective and certainly better for your health than 7 beers a night. I have to say I've been there, well the 5 to 7 beers a night place and I was able to quit cold turkey no problem. You can do it.

Assuming your pain is tolerable with out the beers get off the beer first. Then talk to a pdoc, or pain specialist to see if they think gabapentin would be a sensible choice for you. If you are drinking 6 beers a night doctors won't want to prescribe gabapentin, as the combo can leave you really messed up. Best to start with reducing the beers with the motivation of pain relief and good sleep from gabapentin once you successfully stop drinking. Good luck, if you need people to talk to this website if filled with knowledgeable people who have probably been in a similar place.

 

[waffle-head]

I was in your position, stopped drinking during the week, subbed for cannabis instead.

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

I wish i could help.

Im 36 and been consuming around 7 to 14 units of alcohol every night. On average, 1 bottle of wine, every night for at least 10 years.
I did manage to take a few nightly breaks a couple of weeks at most literally over these ten years. This was after extensive counseling.

I have had other drugs mixed in with this addiction, most recently over last 4 years i have on and off been using stimulant cathinones.

My point is i too suffer major addiction issues.
However, in last 24 months, i have managed to (at best) reduce alcohol for a period of around 6 weeks to include 3 days a week without.
I have also managed recently around 9 days without alcohol, specifically using 3 meo pcp to assist.
I dont condone this as an adjunct, specifically in this type of issue, but raised it as an amazing chemical to help psychologically.

After my stint of using 3meopcp and stopping alcohol and caffeine easily, i ran out of product before knowing how it was helping. Otherwise would have planned better to continue alcohol (and caffeine) free.

Slowly, over few weeks, after 3meopcp usage, i was back to full consumption of alcohol (1 bottle of wine, plus bit more on most nights)

Short point is after very long dependency i did manage to stop without any physical symptoms.
Not sure if 3 meo pcp was a catalyst minimizing this or after 10 years, with small breaks, 1 bottle of wine every night is something you can withdrawal from without symptoms.

As im back to where i was, without the benefit of an amazing catalyst like 3meopcp, i will be trying again with nothing else.

My goal will be to get down to 1/2 bottle of wine before stepping into actual abstinence. I think i will be ok, and hopefully can do so soon.
Not sure if my detailed answer helps but hope it does!

 

[Intense]

you dont know that
in your case, maybe.

im struggling wit daily beer drinking, too.
like 3-6 per day, sometimes more st less, everyday tho.

first I used to drink to control my paranoias from smokin pot (like 2-3 7% beers before smoking) now I just drink to be in a better mood, to feel better in general.

Im 30 and been drinking like this, alone, for ~3 years now

hate hard liquors too
but you've got to remember it IS still alkohol.
vodka, beers whatevs

Plus i hear that over 80% of alcoholics are beer drinkers, so go figure

Psychologically it may be tough, but actual worrisome physical withdrawal, to cause alarm? No, he is not going to get seizures, delirium tremens, or severe withdrawal symptoms from 6-7 beers a night. At the most he may get some shakes, anxiety, and the craving to drink.

 

[burn out]

That's interesting as I wouldn't consider 6mg of subs per day (total) to be that much of a script, and neither would my pain doc (don't worry - he's got a waiting list of people who want his services, so he's not going to BS me to keep me on subs). I get zero mood benefit from taking them. They just dull my chronic pain. I was on 12mg per day when I transitioned from percs to subs, cut it to 6mg, and haven't had a need to increase. That's why it's hard for me to get off of them. Whereas with the percs and oxycontin I kept having to take more and more. That being said, I agree with you that they are contributing to my lethargy. If the subs are causing the edema in my legs, that is definitely causing lethargy because that's water weight. It's harder to move around. The problem I have with the subs is that they are BY FAR the best pain med when it comes to controlling my chronic pain, which is pretty intense. In fact, my personal experience with subs has convinced me that chronic pain patients should actually be given subs and should never be given any of the usual opiates if they are going to use meds. Percs are okay if you just got out of surgery and need help for a few days. Other than that, they suck for chronic pain. They just stop working after awhile. My pain doc and I have discussed the possibility of doing a very slow taper to see if the edema goes down and if I feel better. But it's a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation with me. I have been thru 3 rounds of physical therapy, 2 rounds of acupuncture, 6 months of soft tissue therapy, pain injections, compound pain creams, and far too many visits to the chiropractor. With the subs, I only have to pay the chiropractor $25 every three weeks. Without them....God knows how many times I would be going in to see him. The whole situation sucks. But the booze has to go first because it's not helping ANYTHING. I am very aware of the dangers of subs though.....the longer and longer you take them, the harder and harder it is to get rid of them....even with a good taper. I gosh damn hate it. My whole family is screwed. My sister just had to go on disability for the rest of her life at 39 due to chronic pain and mental health problems. My mom had severe neuropathy, arthritis and carpel tunnel syndrome. Got her hips and knees replaced. Fortunately she died peacefully, although she died the death of a cigarette smoker.

Six mgs of sub is a huge amount, that's more than I used to need to quit heroin. But I find it interesting you think it works for pain. For me it was the opposite. After a few days of taking sub I would not experience any pain relief at all. Sub is a horrible drug in my opinion, it numbs emotions and causes depression and apathy in the long term and doesn't even get you high. id recommend tapering off sub and switching to kratom.

 

[burn out]

i dont want to come off as a asshole but are you serious, 3-6 beers a day now 3-6 bottles of vodka in a day is a problem, im sorry if im drunk ive had like 16oz of 90%. damn this stuff hurts the throat

Three to six beers a day is a problem for some people. Just because you have a massive drink problem, doesn't mean people who drink much less don't experience negative effects they would rather avoid.

Heck, for a while I was drinking just one of those mini bottles of whiskey per day, the 40 ml one shot bottles. I smoked some weed for the first time in a while and one of the insights I had while stoned I was that I had been drinking too much. Was I killing myself or causing any major damage to my life by having one drink per day? Absolutely not. But it was still too much for me in terms of my body's optimal functioning, so I cut back to about 3 bottles per week and I feel better physically and mentally.

So the amount of alcohol different people can handle is different for everyone. If I drank 6 beers, I'd be hammered and wake up with a horrible hangover and doing that every night would be terrible for me. I used to 4-6 beers a night and it was clearly not good for me. My stomach would always feel sour in the morning, I'd have a headache, lethargy, depression, etc. Just because something isn't imminently killing you doesn't mean it isn't a problematic habit or behavior, but I understand that's hard for alcoholics to grasp.