Stimulants Accidentally injected 20mg adderall

[AddyIV]

So I am starting to taper myself off opiates from heavy heroin use of 1g a day. I got some Adderall from my guy to see if it would help with my mood and work while tapering off the opiates which are currently some methadone and opana iv when wds come on.

My guy gave me 2 er capsules and 1 ir 20mg tablet in the same bag as my opana today. Well I was awakened just now by my withdrawal symptoms so I went to prepare an opana shot. I'd forgotten the Adderall ir was in there and it looks almost identical to opana 10mg ir.

I am an amphetamine naive person since my opiate addiction started years ago but prior to that, I'd snort coke quite a bit. I don't feel I'm in danger of overdosing. My questions are, how long can I expect this to last? Are Adderall ir pills safe? I filtered it and didn't miss. The rush was very intense, I immediately knew what I did once it hit me.

It should be noted, I had no plans to inject this, just oral or snorting at worse. I don't want to substitute one needle addiction for another

 

[AddyIV]

Also how bad will the come down be from this? I've heard Adderall coming down is worse than coke.

And how long before I'm able to redose my opiates and it be safe?

 

[Tryptamite]

Take your opiates now if your sick, save them for the comedown if youre not.

the crash will affect different people to different extents. Iv use would normally lead to a more pronounced crash. either way you cant change it so just accept it. you'll be fine.

just be glad you shot amphetamine and not something that would have done you serious harm.

 

[AddyIV]

Actually the Adderall shot seems to have relieved the wd's which was a little surprising but it's just the initial stages and not severely dope sick since it's a taper. But if/when I do start getting bad, it's OK to redose?

Appreciate the reply.

And lol... You mean like heroin? I was up to a gram a day of that stuff... Doesn't get much worse than that!

 

[Tryptamite]

yeah amphetamines and opiates isnt really a dangerous combination, if you stick to your regular dose.

no i mean like.... let me think.... vivotril (instant WDs, im sure you'd recognise a subutex but itd feel similar but worse) or some antipsychotic or something. I know those pills probably look nothing alike but you get the jist of what im saying.

 

[AddyIV]

OK, good to hear.

Ah, yeah no concern there but I understand. I'm staying away from subs anyways.

On a side note, the high from this has been pretty good. The rush, like I mentioned, was super intense, in a good way. But I've been on a pretty even keel high since. Would oral or snorting be similar just without the initial rush?

 

[Tryptamite]

yeah, but obviously as well as the rush you would lose a small portion of the total mg amount of the drug. IV is 100% bioavailability (and providing you can manage to get everything from pill to syringe, you'll get the full dose) you might get a little less snorting or orally, but AFAIK those bioavailabilities are high enough (80%+ off the top of my head) to make IV use an unnecessary risk.

some people do like the rush enough to make it worth the risk. Using a micron filter can greatly reduce the risk, while not affecting the reward negatively at all.

 

[spacejunk]

Yeah, if you're going to inject pills, using a micron filter is essential.
The insoluble binders in pills can cause a multitude of serious problems - from cardiovascular to localised (ie loss of limbs etc).

Micron filters are relatively inexpensive, can be found at needle exchanges and online. You're taking enormous risks in IVing anything that hasnt been passed through a micron filter - far, far more risky than mixing amphetamine and opiates.
Take care man.

 

[AddyIV]

Agreed on the micron filter, for H it's never really been as important because qtips usually get the job done and these aren't as many filters/"extras" in H. But I shot so Mitch and so often, they were never very practical.

I'll look in to them for my taper though.

How would I go about ensuring I don't leave any drug in the filter? Save some room for a flush?

 

[AddyIV]

It's insane how long this is lasting. I'm used to heroin that the high only lasts a few minutes then you're just knocked out. I'm honestly just ready for it to end at this point. I thought IV would be over faster than oral or insufflated... Ugh

 

[spacejunk]

How would I go about ensuring I don't leave any drug in the filter? Save some room for a flush?

Yeah, use more water
Also, wet the filter before using it, ie run some h2o through it

 

[AddyIV]

Yeah, use more water
Also, wet the filter before using it, ie run some h2o through it

OK understood. Thanks!

 

[Boku_]

Hang in there AddyIV I've had amphetamine users swear to me IV using stims is the only way long term to use that type of drug as when you shoot you get a second to none rush and because you are having less of the drug compared to using orally the rush and following comedown may be more intense the total time span of prolonged sleeplessness is less, This in turn means a recreational user of stims is far less likely to become psychotic from using stims if they use IV. if you have only the one IV shot ofcourse. Multiple consecutive days use of stims leads to all sorts of emotional and mental problems. I base this theory on my albeit limited experience using speed/meth IV that on the nights i had a shot of stim's i had a crazy intense buzz for the night and around 8 hours later i would come down and have a rough day jaggered and edgy i would almost like clock work fall asleep at 9pm the following evening which was pretty much exactly 24 hours after having the IV shot. On the other hand when i smoke meth and don't get me wrong the buzz from breathing in and out white cloudy meth smoke is an awesome buzz i like most other meth users tend to smoke twice or even triple the amount of meth compared to IV use. Hence you have more of the drug in your system and for me i am awake from smoking meth for two nights and fall asleep at around 7am-8am around almost 12 hours after if i had used IV. So AddyIV you will eventually fall asleep from the amphetamines you have IV'ed. Just depends how your Heroin WDs react from your taper.

For what it's worth for my stim comedowns i swear by couple of doses of Paracetamol and Ibuprofen combined with a few glasses of beer but fair enough if due to Heroin WD's you can't stomach alcohol.

yeah amphetamines and opiates isnt really a dangerous combination, if you stick to your regular dose.
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I agree Tryptamine although many an ex-current hardcore heroin user started out using opiates to ease a stim comedown so that may be something for AddyIV to keep in mind.

"On a side note, the high from this has been pretty good. The rush, like I mentioned, was super intense, in a good way. But I've been on a pretty even keel high since. Would oral or snorting be similar just without the initial rush?"

It's hard to explain the high will be still good for oral or snorting but it just won't be as intense or overwhelming satisfying for the time you are high as IV. Another interesting thing i notice with using stim's is that i haven't used IV for over ten years (These days i don't need the hassle of have needle marks on my arms, i've come to far and smoking highly pure meth is a better than adequate substitute from a harm-reduction point of view compared to baggage of the intense rush of the needle.) I don't crave the pinch of the needle even one bit. It does help i don't socialise or hang out at IV users homes anymore.

I wish you well AddyIV on your path to freedom from opiate addiction. I've never experienced heroin withdrawal but from what i have read online smack is the holy grail of drug addictions to recover from.

 

[SS373dOH]

Originally Posted by Tryptamite
yeah amphetamines and opiates isnt really a dangerous combination, if you stick to your regular dose.

It's not exactly safe either.. stimulating your cns, then depressing it, can take it's toll, especially if it's long term use.

 

[morphine-dreams]

I can't answer 99% of your questions since I don't shoot, but get yourself some L-theanine for the comedown! I tried this recently and will never take adderall without it again. I was starting to feel really shitty, took 400mg theanine, and boom-ZERO comedown.

 

[littlesky]

When I was using dope, I usually had 20mg addys on deck to speedball with my heroin when I didn't have coke. It depends on how your tolerance is to stimulants like Adderall, and since it's an ir it won't last very long. The xr doesn't even last very long, honestly. And to answer your other question, whenever you start to feel dopesick is when you should redose w opiates; don't let yourself get too sick. Like I said, I was doing both addy & dope or coke & dope at the same time, all the time. It's not really dangerous - if anything, they kinda balance each other out.
And I don't personally find addy comedown to be especially bad, or any worse than coke comedown. Just stay hydrated or you'll wind up with a nasty headache, and if you have some benzos handy I find they ease the transition.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Taking adderall when In opiate withdrawal is a waste , for some reason the Adderall enhanced the my opiate withdrawal symptoms and made me even more nervous, basically it felt like an adderall crash from onset to end of buzz...that's just me though. I have to be opiate ready to roll on adderall, withdrawal free...

 

[SS373dOH]

Those Addy's have a lot of nasty ingerdients.. I hope you're not adding heat, and I hope you're using a microny...