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3 months psychedelic binge side effects

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frankmilton

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Hi, I went on a 3 month psychedelic binge(LSD and mushrooms) and now I'm dealing with some extreme anxiety and depression issues.

Has anyone gone down a similar path??

Have I done any permanent damage??

If not, how long does it take to recover??

Last time I did psychedelic was 8 days ago and it was LSD, and I can still feel minor effects.

It takes shit tons of benzo just to put me to sleep right now and my GP said that we'll discuss about referring me to a psychiatrist.

I haven't slept properly in a few weeks, which makes me extra sensitive to stress.

I've got the worst tension headache from all the anxiety and stress. Its horrible...

Any advice anyone??

Also, should I ask my doctor to order me a brain scan??

I am really worried that I might have done some serious permanent damage to my brain or my mental health.
 
I can pretty much guarentee that you have not caused brain damage......at the worst you may have rewired some neuro pathways, but that's a stretch unless you were high like the whole month
 
Yes have gone down similar. Too much to integrate. Slow down .no drugs period. I would have much better advice buf I'm half trippin sorry.you will get better. Concentrate on easily digested foods and stay active. Ride a bike or walm miles a day. Just stay up. Maybe better reply tom
 
Damn, a lot to say here but I'll try to keep it short.

You need abstinence for sure. If that's what you're getting out of your use, then you shouldn't be doing them in the first place. Drugs aren't for people who lack self control like that, because then it will spiral downwards. At least reign it in and assess yourself.

Any of your feelings regarding permanent damage to yourself should be expressed to your GP, who will then refer you to the appropriate specialist. Asking those kinds of questions here, when nobody knows anything about you or your situation, cannot possibly help. Using lsd mushrooms, or anything else should be a temporary phenomenon that should have lasting, positive impacts when used correctly. Basic set and setting, which is wholly underrated, should be followed according to your personal comfort.

Honestly, someone that is well spoken is unlikely to have done any harm to him/herself. At least from what I think you're referring to. It's all in your mind. I'm going to say this again, but eat properly, exercise and be productive in your life. That's what you can control so that's what you should focus on pertaining to your road to recovery.

I would say good luck, but luck has nothing to do with this. Make your own luck by putting in the effort. :)
 
Are you sure of your LSD contact? These days nBOME series are widely sold as LSD because it's cheap and can be sold on blotters just like LSD. This serie of new superpotent hallucinogens are really closer to what amphetamine looks like which with long term use can lead to insomnia and anxiety, even the high tolerance to benzo can be explained by this. If i'm right you only have the source of the problem; stimulant abuse . A psychiatrist will probably be the one you should be talking to for advices to get better. Even tho being sober, eating healthy and doing some daily exercise can cure lots of life discomfort it wont always be enough.

If you really had LSD then the problem is less likely to be caused by a bad drug but by a bad use of them leading to you questionning your actions and wondering if regret is applicable, which subconsciously can be troubling (here the problem would be in the subconscious part of the brain ). Again only the source, gotta see some1 for the solution.

Last possibility I see, it would be rare but still. Some shrooms are shot with PCP to get them more powerful, overuse of PCP leads to upregulation of NMDA receptors which can cause to anxiety, restlesssness and even high tolerance to benzodiazepines. (In this case the source is brain ''damage'' or disregulation.

I dont see any other possibilities, Good drugs wont hurt your brain only your psychological state and bad drugs will do both.
 
Mracid said:
Are you sure of your LSD contact? These days nBOME series are widely sold as LSD because it's cheap and can be sold on blotters just like LSD. This serie of new superpotent hallucinogens are really closer to what amphetamine looks like which with long term use can lead to insomnia and anxiety, even the high tolerance to benzo can be explained by this. If i'm right you only have the source of the problem; stimulant abuse . A psychiatrist will probably be the one you should be talking to for advices to get better. Even tho being sober, eating healthy and doing some daily exercise can cure lots of life discomfort it wont always be enough.

If you really had LSD then the problem is less likely to be caused by a bad drug but by a bad use of them leading to you questionning your actions and wondering if regret is applicable, which subconsciously can be troubling (here the problem would be in the subconscious part of the brain ). Again only the source, gotta see some1 for the solution.

Last possibility I see, it would be rare but still. Some shrooms are shot with PCP to get them more powerful, overuse of PCP leads to upregulation of NMDA receptors which can cause to anxiety, restlesssness and even high tolerance to benzodiazepines. (In this case the source is brain ''damage'' or disregulation.

I dont see any other possibilities, Good drugs wont hurt your brain only your psychological state and bad drugs will do both.
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This post is indicative of a really worrying trend within the pd forum. People keep acting like lsd and mushrooms are safe and above reproach for some voodoo reason, and whenever an adverse reaction is reported it must be a case of adulterated drugs or a misrepresentation of the active.

The only safety benefits of classical psychs over any and all rcs is physical safety. Taking 100 hits of lsd will not physically kill you where 100 of nbome probably would.

The psychological risks from classical psychs are as high (or higher compared to some of the lighter phens) as any research chemical, and any insinuation of a difference in psychalogical danger is harmful self delusion.

Going for a month long binge on any psychs will leave you quite wonky for a bit. Echoing the previous posters, sobriety, diet and exercise are the short route to feeling better. If you can avoid getting on benzos I think you will have a much shorter recovery, benzos don't really fix anything as much as providing temporary relief while giving you a habit.

Let this post hopefully shatter the cult of traditional psychs. The trend of ascribing bad trips to new research chemicals both lulls users into a false sense of security with traditional and represents willfull ignorance of reality.
 
The most important thing is not to worry. You WILL return back to normal eventually. How fast that happens depends on your brain personally, along with a few other factors such as diet, sleep, exercise, not taking ANY other drugs (that means benzos if you're able to quit them) and meditation.

A well known cure for HPPD is lion's mane mushroom. I'm not sure if it'll help but it's worth a shot. It's normally used in gourmet cooking, but can be bought at supplement stores. It also has other great properties, such as being a neuroprotective iirc.

Another important thing that you might want to know is that, by letting your doctors know that you take drugs they put you on a list. You may not be able to get certain medications in the future, and some doctors may look at you differently. Even if you tell them, most doctors don't know shit about psychedelic use, and they probably won't do you much good unless you find a specialist in HPPD. This is just my opinion but the solution to an issue such as this, isn't western medicine. Your body will heal on it's own.

You also need to understand that you can abuse psychedelics. These substances you're taking are POWERFUL neurotransmitters and need to be respected. If you continue your use of psychedelics after you recover, I highly suggest you space out your use by at least a month.
 
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I agree with CA here. Brain and nervous system issues usually can't be resolved with drugs. Benzos are bad news but I'm sure you know that but they actually prevent the brain from healing IME with some of the issues I have. Brain scan is going to be a waste of time and money. It can take a long time but you really have to give yourself time and take it easy on the drugs. Esp psych drugs. When your brain is in a chaotic state it is trying to reach homeostasis. Adding more drugs into the mix doesn't help you to reach that homeostasis any faster. If you feel like you need to take something, I use tenex for the anxiety I get over gaba drugs. It works pretty well and isn't habit forming. I don't take it everyday but as needed. Scullcap is pretty good for relaxing too and helping you sleep. Don't over do it on these things though and take them only when you need them. Magnesium citrate (there are different kinds, do your research) and sublingual B12 (5000 mcg) I would recommend too. Lots of people are deficient in these and they promote nervous system health.

Best of luck on your healing journey my friend. Good luck. :)

The fact of the matter is, most people recover from drug induced problems in the long term. It can be a battle, but thinking you aren't going to get better isn't going to help you much. There is definitely a psychological component to it. Believing you can get better makes a difference. Don't worry about it. Mindfulness and cbt are also powerful tools that shouldn't be underestimated in addition to what cryptic posted.
 
frankmilton said:
I am really worried that I might have done some serious permanent damage to my brain or my mental health.
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Well, it's too late to go back in time and choose not to overuse psychedelics. All you can do at this point is eat healthy, exercise, and keep busy with hobbies or whatever you like to do. That will surely help you stay sane. If you really need benzos (some people totally do) then I'd try to use the bare minimum possible so that maybe one day you can get off them. Taking 'shit tons' is what's bad news, not benzo use in itself. If you can't sleep then maybe just try and accept it and stay up reading or something? Are you having panic attacks? Because that's mainly what benzos are used for.

t really seems like you might have altered your brain in a negative way. You have clearly been 'damaged' in some way if you are encountering all these troubles... it's probably reversible for the most part. It's doubtful that you just have to 'work through stuff you learned tripping' or 'reintegrate' or something like that... it's more likely to be a neurochemical imbalance or something like that... seriously just lay of the psychedelics for the sake of your health man. Even once a month is a hell of a lot for me!

I personally ruined weed for myself by abusing it, and I will never be able to smoke it again. Just letting you know it's possible for something like that to happen especially with overuse.
 
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Skorpio said:
This post is indicative of a really worrying trend within the pd forum. People keep acting like lsd and mushrooms are safe and above reproach for some voodoo reason, and whenever an adverse reaction is reported it must be a case of adulterated drugs or a misrepresentation of the active.

The only safety benefits of classical psychs over any and all rcs is physical safety. Taking 100 hits of lsd will not physically kill you where 100 of nbome probably would.

The psychological risks from classical psychs are as high (or higher compared to some of the lighter phens) as any research chemical, and any insinuation of a difference in psychalogical danger is harmful self delusion.

Going for a month long binge on any psychs will leave you quite wonky for a bit. Echoing the previous posters, sobriety, diet and exercise are the short route to feeling better. If you can avoid getting on benzos I think you will have a much shorter recovery, benzos don't really fix anything as much as providing temporary relief while giving you a habit.

Let this post hopefully shatter the cult of traditional psychs. The trend of ascribing bad trips to new research chemicals both lulls users into a false sense of security with traditional and represents willfull ignorance of reality.
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Well, I agree with your assessment that the classic psychedelics are somehow safer than the others. However, in the case of NBOMes, it seems that the chance of harm is significantly greater. I wouldn't say the same is true of the majority of other things. But yeah, I agree that it's an unfortunate trend that people always seem to immediately attribute bad trips or negative effects to research chemicals, as if LSD can't cause them.

As for the OP's questions... in 2006-2008 I basically went on one long 2+ year binge... up to 4 or 5 times a week, one time I took AMT 7 days in a row. I tried pretty much everything available and used a lot of different things consistently. I certainly abused the fuck out of psychedelics. It did take me a little while to recover fully, I think the biggest factor was the chronic lack of sleep (staying up at night to trip and waking up for work). It really took less time to sort myself out than I expected it to. I attained a bit of perma-tolerance for psychedelics, I turned from a guy who used to require small doses into a hardhead. But, I definitely recovered. Take care of yourself, exercise will help a lot, as well as eating healthy. And certainly don't take any psychedelics or other drugs, at least for a long while. I did start using psychedelics again after about 3 years... I never had the desire to go crazy with them like that again. But that's just me.
 
I doubt you've done any serious damage. It's normal to feel a bit anxious after a psychedelic binge, but you should recover in a few weeks. After a 2-3 month psychedelic binge it usually takes me around 2-3 weeks to recover, assisted by a lot of weed, tea, eating & sleeping well and some gentle outdoor exercise, usually walking/hiking.

Be careful with the benzos, they'll do more damage that is harder to recover from, your insomnia & anxiety may be benzo rebound symptoms. I've never had insomnia after psychedelics once the main effects have worn off & not heard reports of it either, it sounds like you might have started a benzo addiction.

You should ask your doctor or psychiatrist for a benzo taper plan & get away from regular benzo use safely before it causes real damage.
 
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I started using cannabis last night to ease myself up, but it feels like I can still feel a bit of effects of psychedelics... is this normal??
 
Yeah don't smoke weed for a while, it's not going to help at all.
The things you need most are time, sleep, food, human company, exercise, air... no drugs at all for frankmilton!
 
I think you misunderstood me... I was saying New STREET RC are bad cuz they usually take the cheapest crap to give you a buzz (NBOMes, Which I would never use gain because of the side effects i described in 1rst paragraph and experianced for a whole year afterwards).. I'm all For RCs in fact ive use 4-aco-DMT and 4-ho-met numerous times. I also agree that whatever the psych you take, abusing for a month can be psychologically disturbing but nothing to stress out like that unless there is some underlying problems which were brought out by the ego dissolution of the month.

As for saying that psychological risks of classical psych are high I agree and dont at the same time cuz ANY psych is only good when used in controlled setting and at good dose. If misused it can lead to delusions and loss of control on objectivity.

The only security you get from trypts ,which I prefer generally, is that they are less dangerous at high dose and have lower physical disturbing feeling, and much less muscle tensions.
 
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