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(2C-D / 25mg rectal, ~3mg nasal) - First Time - "A Clean, Cool Confectionary"

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(2C-D / 25mg rectal, ~3mg nasal) - First Time - "A Clean, Cool Confectionary"

2C-D - First time(ish) - (15mg rectally + 5mg rectal + 5 rectal + ~3 nasal)

Background: Somewhat experienced with quite an extensive alphabet soup of psychedelics, I was looking to see what 2C-D could offer - hopefully a lightweight and enjoyable short-acting psychedelic. Today, I was feeling slightly irritable, and had eaten a reasonable breakfast and lunch. No tolerance was expected do to a reasonable break in psychedelic use.

3:36pm 15mg, three times weighed, diluted in 2mL water and taken rectally after cleaning my rectum out with water.
3:42 Onset. Amusement, smiles, mental alteration. No rectal burn.
3:47 Still growing gently.
3:51 Still growing gently, some visual warping developing. Irritability from earlier has not been abating, unfortunately. Sitting down to a chocolate bar and some good tunes to change my mood. This is nice, but may be a bit of an underdose. Then again, it might not.
4:02 Peak, I assume. Pupils dilated. Fairly stimulated. Easy on the body. Took 5mg more rectally. Chocolate bar helped my mood.
4:05 Ah yes, now we've crossed the threshold to somewhere interesting
4:15 Passed through a period of psychological interest to a period that's a bit more muntered ala 2C-t-7. Visuals are not colorful, but the whole brick wall is undulating and waving and moving. No tracers.
4:23 While attempting to measure out 5 more milligrams, colors, stomach tightness, neck/jaw/chest tension, pupil dilation--all increased. Not sure if I need to increase dosage at this point. Solid ++. Could be intellectually useful as well as an all-purpose recreational enhancer.
4:27 5mg more taken rectally. Expect tension headache to develop with this dose. Surprisingly, still no nausea. Very light space, like confectioner's sugar.
4:34 It's stimulating, but not in an at all obnoxious way. Supplement is kicking in.
4:39 Not seeing the increase of effects I would have anticipated from that dose, so I assume it was taken too late ad tolerance may already be a factor. Space is oddly clear headed. Not inherently interesting. Dose could definitely be pushed much higher, surprisingly, from how I was feeling at 20mg. This is a good, versatile material. Slight headache, probably increased blood pressure. Visuals have been diminishing.
4:49 Touch is enhanced. Some stimulation in my loins, although questionable as to whether erection will happen or not. Intimacy is good, music is enhanced.
4:54 Weighed out 4mg. Divided pile in two, insufflate half. Note immediate bump of visual clarity. Not even close to as unpleasant to insufflate as 2C-B, although it doesn't absorb well.
4:56 Insufflate remaining half. (Turns out most got stuck in the tube, unnoticed until the end of the evening) Visual clarity jumps again. Visuals are varied and inconsistent: rainbow smears, movement, breathing,
5:30 Still peaking at a delightful +++. Porn viewing was hilarious and disturbing. The erotic might be possible, but it's not a demand
Jaw tension, neck tension present. This is kind of what I imagined MDMA without the empathy to be like. This would be a spectacular club drug. Appetite has been thoroughly suppressed throughout. Despite that, chocolate, pineapple, and strawberries taste wonderful. Sex was not easy, but was incredibly enjoyable in an uncharacteristic way: I felt a sense of lucidity and open enjoyment of my and my partner's body, and easy humor, a relaxed honesty that made the experience spectacular for me. I was a bit chilly, though. I imagine my blood pressure spiked pretty high, but I neglected to check. Took some magnesium
6:00 Plateau. Humor is easy, I feel light-hearted. I could see how this could be called nootropic, actually--it definitely has a lucidity and an increase access to lateral thinking. Low doses might legitimately be nootropic (shame about tolerance, possible 5ht2b agonism?) There is not a hint of darkness to this despite how heavy I dosed and how far into the experience I am--most other psychedelics would have some level of darkness or difficulty to them. This has only strong (but relatively manageable) stimulation, jaw tension, and neck tension.
6:26 ++, I think. Might eat some food
6:51 Easy plummet straight down. Some head tension like a headache building, some subtle lower GI gas maybe building, nothing really bothering me. I could easily go for a walk. Going to eat some pineapple pizza instead. Have been playing video games to wind down. Would really love a glass of wine to wind down, except I really like the mental clarity I have sans alcohol, which I don't think I have a healthy relationship with anymore and have thus almost completely eliminated from my life. Pizza is delicious. Media is enjoyable. I could see this substituting for moxy as a recreational enhancer in its absence
7:17 Return to consciousness to smooth and seamless. Impressive.
7:35 I feel close to baseline. Really, a quite seamless descent. Some not uncomfortable gas, though. Apparently it reeks, but I can't smell it.
8:12 Side effects pretty much gone.
9:00 Went outside. Nope, still not close to baseline at all. Endangering others by driving would be ill advised even now even though I don't feel super altered.
9:30 Still altered
10:00 Slept easily after two glasses of wine

The next day, I had an excellent afterglow and a headache that didn't respond much to ibuprofen + crampbark. Probably a combo from the 2c-d, the wine, and the dehydration. Towards the afternoon, I could feel my general poor level of cognitive function already starting to slide back in and muddle things, which was sad.

All in all, it was a delight. Far from being moreish, it seems like there's something to recommend every dosage level. The experience was quite manageable at lower and higher doses, and I feel like lower than 15mg and higher than 25mg would have been pleasant, too. While not entirely non-toxic feeling, it was quite easy on the body apart from the persistent headache. The experience was cool, clean, light, and refreshing. The visuals were varied, non-thematic, and disorganized, and fairly strong if not particularly interesting. I could see myself revisiting this space quite a lot - I certainly prefer it to 2C-B via any ROA so far!

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Sounds awesome. I've been wanting to try plugging a lot lately. It sounds like it worked quite well with 2C-D. Is it like 2C-B if you've tried that, because I have had an experience with that. Not plugging it though but taking it orally. My 2C-B experience was pretty cool. Kind of like a very euphoric, more lighthearted version of acid and mushrooms. The visuals were even crazier though, at one point the trees were even waving at me and then at one point I saw an alien in the woods..... which of course wasn't an alien but actually a tree stump :)
 
Sounds awesome. I've been wanting to try plugging a lot lately. It sounds like it worked quite well with 2C-D. Is it like 2C-B if you've tried that, because I have had an experience with that. Not plugging it though but taking it orally.

I've used 2C-D, 2C-E, 2C-B, and 2C-T-2 rectally to good effect. With 2C-E, the come-up was short and smooth with minimal side-effects (especially when taken with an anti-histamine). With 2C-T-2, the come-up started almost immediately, and caused no stomach upset. Considering both are notorious for long come-ups that are rough on the body, I've never been tempted to try them orally. The fact that the duration is almost as long as oral, but the come-up and comedown are shorter are major benefits in my book. The quality and character of the experience is supposedly comparable with oral, as well, while insufflated 2C-X experiences are notoriously shallow and visual by comparison, not to mention terrible for the long-term health of your nasal passages. With 2C-D, a rectal ROA also saves on material, as it's not particularly potent.

My experiences with 2C-B are idiosyncratic. I am not a fan of oral 2C-B. The dosage response curve is all over the place for me, with 10mg and 15mg producing stronger effects than 25mg and 30mg at times independent of tolerance. It may just have an erratic oral bioavailability, something I'm also beginning to suspect of 2C-D (see recent report.) It hasn't been particularly visual orally, and it has an unpleasant, crampy, tense, gritty, jangly, stimulating body load. The onset is forever long, and the tail end of the stimulation is interminable. The peak is about two hours, with a quick two hour descent. It will keep me up for fourteen hours after dosing, and still give me a poor night's sleep. Rectal is only a tiny bit better subjectively, knocking off about two hours from the tail end. Unfortunately, I find it injurious to my rectal membranes, and I didn't even have the HCl salt! While I've had intranasal 2C-B give me chemical burns and a bloody nose, the idea of having the open wounds in an area of my body as gross as my rectum even more intolerable. Needless to say, I never tried it enough times this way to see if it had a more reliable dose-response relationship. The unfortunate thing is, while I have no love for oral or rectal 2C-B, I do actually enjoy it insufflated. I find it beautifully visual, and actually kind of useful for one of Shulgin's creations. The gritty, stimulating come-up is a bit of a drag, but the plateau provides a deep sense of stillness and reflection. It's a smooth, placid, place of stillness and balance. If it lasted twice as long, it would be one of my favorites; unfortunately, two hours of plateau aren't a fair trade for a two hour jagged, edgy come-up and scatterbrained peak and damage to my nasal mucousa. The peak and plateau are only a little shorter than the rectal ROA for me, but the useless stimulating periods are MUCH shorter, which is the only reason I gave this chemical the time of day intranasally. While 2C-B for me has a gross, irritating come-up and a delightful comedown, 2C-D for me has a quietly positive come-up and a quietly positive comedown, all with very few side-efects.

2C-D doesn't have this utility for me, but it's much more of an all-round recreational psychedelic at all doses. At low doses, it's fresh and bright like caffeine, where 2C-B is a bit squirrely and weird for me. At medium doses, it's stimulation feels healthy and clean compared to 2C-B's, and the headspace is more clear and upbeat, the visuals brighter, more varied, and more panoramic. 2C-B's color palette and distortions are more regular, more cartoonish, smooth, and pastel. At high doses, 2C-B can provoke a sense of terror deep in the gut, where as 2C-D simply becomes a bit too stimulating for my personal liking, with the visuals just getting more bright and the headspace getting a bit stronger. It feels much easier and more manageable, but even less useful or deep. I rate 2C-D quite highly, especially taken rectally titrated to a strong dose. It just feels positive...well, except for the headaches.

One day, I will explore 2C-C again to see if it can replace 2C-B. My one experience with it was 14+ years ago, and it was negative - I think it's worth revisiting.
 
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