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RCs good god, MDPV withdrawal after 1000mg binge, seriously?

Effexor definitely doesn't cancel out the effects of MDPV for me, but does seem to alter them somewhat. But I really don't know how much, since I've been on effexor for the past couple years and memories of a stimulant high tend to fade in a weird kind of way (ya know, like how you can forget nasty experiences and be stoked to get more again later).
 
I think it just was a weak batch. I had to get brave and try like more than I thought I was supposed to ever need, after reading all the warnings. I ordered 2G of another brand that's supposed to be 99.8% pure. I've pretty much come down after no sleep for two days in a row and I have few body/muscle aches, but it's nothing as bad as I was expecting from all the people who made it sound like I'd be recovering for at least a few days. I feel ok, besides a few sore muscles and some cramping toes for awhile. I ran out, but have more on the way. I hope this is dangerously potent at low doses, like everyone seemed to imply. That first one was mostly wasted, trying not enough to get off, until I finally thought it just wasn't going to show me the real effect, so I shot about 5 times what my last try was and it finally made me feel pretty damn good. I thought it might have something to do with the Effexor, but I think I just needed to use a lot more. It must be a lot weaker than before, or it just takes a hell of a lot more than what people were recommending. Kind of a disappointment, since I thought it was going to last for like 100 doses, but maybe this different brand will be more like what I've heard - a minuscule mount is supposed to be so potent. I sure hope so. 2 grams should last a while if it is that potent.
 
No deliriants even come close to the depths of insanity as this.

I guess it confirms what I already kinda thought. Stimulants are fucking unmatched when it comes to crazy shit.


The only times I've seen people under piles of clothes in the back seat of my car or 30 people in my back yard all standing still and facing the fence line was from methamp. I'm glad I didn't get arrested for threatening the shadow people in the back of my car with my 30-30 rifle at 3am.
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
No deliriants even come close to the depths of insanity as this.

I guess it confirms what I already kinda thought. Stimulants are fucking unmatched when it comes to crazy shit.
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They can be... but the problem generally comes down to binging and sleep deprivation, not the stimulants themselves. Shoulda seen me last week, after being awake for all but two nights over nearly a two week period. It's extremely disabling.
 
Dedbeet said:
They can be... but the problem generally comes down to binging and sleep deprivation, not the stimulants themselves. Shoulda seen me last week, after being awake for all but two nights over nearly a two week period. It's extremely disabling.
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Oh I understand :D

I've been there once or twice. Sleep deprivation induced psychosis and paranoia is not fucking cool. Luckily (unluckily I suppose) I suffer from insomnia and therefore I avoid stimulants like the bubonic plauge.

I hope soaps alright:\ He obviously has literary talent and the capability of rebuilding from what he has experienced. He seems to readily recognize the negative effects of what has occurred. Addiction is a bitch.
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
No deliriants even come close to the depths of insanity as this.

I guess it confirms what I already kinda thought. Stimulants are fucking unmatched when it comes to crazy shit.


The only times I've seen people under piles of clothes in the back seat of my car or 30 people in my back yard all standing still and facing the fence line was from methamp. I'm glad I didn't get arrested for threatening the shadow people in the back of my car with my 30-30 rifle at 3am.
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LOL, definitely sounds like me after even a day or two of MDPV.

Stimulants are nucking futs.
 
Man i really hope you re-cooperate well!

Those RC's are nasty, nasty chemicals. Ive tried Mephedrone twice and i swore I would never touch those crappy chemicals again.
I really do believe a lot of people are gonna suffer from bad effects in the comming years due to the increase of research chemical use and abuse.
 
DeLee said:
Man i really hope you re-cooperate well!

Those RC's are nasty, nasty chemicals. Ive tried Mephedrone twice and i swore I would never touch those crappy chemicals again.
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Well, let's put things in perspective... (A) is MDPV nastier than methamphetamine? Certainly not in my experience. (B) Is it nastier than cocaine? No, not in my experience, and is not a sodium channel blocker so is not as toxic to the heart, period.

(C) Is it nastier than one would expect a cheap, legal and easily available substance to be? Probably so, yes.

How much nastier? Well, if you compare it to caffeine, sudafed and such... quite a bit nastier.

RC stims are closer to the illegal stimulants than the legal ones, by a long shot. For those not used to the situation, it takes some getting used to, not to mention a whole lot of self-education and the application of harm reduction techniques. If one is intelligent, knows their substance/their own body and approaches the substance with respect -- one can be OK using it, even if it gets a little crazy.

If one *does not* know their substance/their own body, does not give a shit about harm reduction and is messing with "bath salts" containing god knows what -- one could die, even if it never gets crazy at all.

Does that help any?
 
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Soap MacTavish said:
You think I should refrain from ALL drugs, even therapeutic ones scripted? I feel like I need to keep taking my maintenance dose of amphetamine (50mg x 2 daily) or the little bit I am above the dark waters disappears and I am submerged into a god-awful depression.
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I agree. It's not permanent. man. You just need to wait a few weeks and don't take anything except maybe the Kpins if you need a tension reliever or something to help sleep. It just takes some time.
 
Damn hard to stay away from stims, once you've got a serious taste for 'em... and damn hard to be on 'em at the same time. No food/starving when they aren't around, too much food/nauseated when they are (either that, or not enough).

It's never 'just right' with stims... ever. Ever. Ever.

Too little, too much or none -- take your pick.

Fwiw, I'm leaning damn close to 'none' these days, myself.... an itch you can't scratch is less than worthless.
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Ok so I went overboard and I seem to have gone though 1000mg's of MDPV in the last week in a non-stop binge. Now the crash, well this is not a crash, this is brain damage.
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It feels like brain damage, all right. Luckily, most of PV's negative effects seem to disappear remarkably fast. If you've ever used other potent stims, it really is remarkable how short is MDPV's recovery time. I relate completely to 'brain damage', tho... it feels so bad, it might as well be.

And fwiw, a gram in a week is relatively commonplace, and really says something about MDPV's remarkable short-term safety record and rapid recovery times. Feel glad you're not recovering from a week of heavy, solid methamphetamine use instead. You would probably not feel up to talking about it on a web forum.
 
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I never thought the hangover and/or side effects were worth the high. I got 2g myself, which was a huge mistake! This super crank crap is just plain cruel, since there is no way to come down!! I wish I knew someone who liked it to sell the rest to. I think I ended up doing about half of it. I would just give or sell it to this ex-tweeker I know, but I'm afraid it will ruin him after all that willpower it must've taken to quit his meth habit! (Or ruin anyone who tries it, really!) This shit is evil!!! I like IV'ing, and I figured out how to make it like 5 times as powerful thaf way. I haven't slept for like 4 or 5 days, I think. I lost track.

I've always liked most hallucinogens best. Those are an entirely different world, usually don't take more than some sleep to recover completely, usually cheap, and aren't addictive. They're more of a thinking mans' drug than a physical, reaction to a mindless, slave, monkey drug which stops you from thinking of anything, but that addictive, speedy shit.
 
Daaamn dude. That sounds like a typical start to a weekend to me ;). Great writing, too btw. I felt like I was sitting in that motel room with you (in actuality I was hehe). Anyways, hope your brain starts feeling better soon, bro.
 
I compiled all his writings/ramblings into one word docment with chapters etc.
It's totally go ask Alice style. I could post the full thing up somewhere if wanted.
Goddamn. Diary of a fucking Madman
 
i went through 2grams in 4days. probaly only due to my un-humanly tolerence, the supplier is(always has been)reliable so i dont think i had something cut, but godamn i didnt even notice i was tearing through my stash till like the last dose. anyway i guess the side effects/roughness on the body is tolerence related. ive had worse comedowns on smaller doses in the past(smaller tol. too)
 
Is he still alive? Holy hell, I got a buzz from just reading his stories.
 
Recycle

Give it to the bums. It gets them off their depressed asses and ito the 5 AM line at Labor Ready :)

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I never thought the hangover and/or side effects were worth the high. I got 2g myself, which was a huge mistake! This super crank crap is just plain cruel, since there is no way to come down!! I wish I knew someone who liked it to sell the rest to. I think I ended up doing about half of it. I would just give or sell it to this ex-tweeker I know, but I'm afraid it will ruin him after all that willpower it must've taken to quit his meth habit! (Or ruin anyone who tries it, really!) This shit is evil!!! I like IV'ing, and I
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how long has it been and has the OP recovered?


i'm currently on some mdpv cut bath salt because i don't trust myself with a gram of pure mdpv lol
 
1000MG in a week aint bad you will be ok. Ive done 500mg since noon and its Midnight now. Sleep deprivation is the problem. Just get away from the MDPV. How long you been on it??? If just a week you just need sleep. I was inn bad shape after 2 days then slept 14 hrs. Dump in and goto sleep
 
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