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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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Finally got mine in the mail on Friday. I decided to not wait for my new scale and just do a liquid measurement with the whole batch (250mg). Did a 1:1 mg to ml ratio so as to avoid any silly mistakes when later attempting to dose. I'm not a retard when it comes to math but I figure the less margin for error with a substance with such a high dose-response curve the better.

I don't know how long this will last in the solution of filtered water but I figure, hell, it is a research chemical I might as well do a little research on it. If my money ends up getting wasted via degradation at least I can report it here and other people can avoid doing it as well :)

Anyway last night was my 1st brush with psychedelic PEA's. The only PEA's in general that I've done were MDMA and amphetamine. Started with a low dose (8mg) to a) get a feel for the substance and b) make sure that my measurements were correct (I always second guess myself :().

Time line was exactly as reported from numerous other users. First alerts @ 0:45. Peak @ 1:30. Comedown @ 5:00. The come-up triggered an IBS attack but it passed quickly. Very small amount of nausea that passed after 1:30'ish. Had a stomach-ache for the entirety of the trip, however. It wasn't terrible and it didn't do anything to shape the trip though and I attribute it to having not eaten in 10 hours and only eating mildly then. Sleep came fairly easily at T+6:30 but I was on a low dose. I can imagine not being able to sleep on higher doses for quite some time.

The effects felt almost identical to low-dose LSD but more clean feeling. Also had a more analytical mind-set then I'm used to on psychedelics. No visuals except for an extremely appreciated blanket of definition and clarity to detail. This was the effect I was looking for when I decided to go ahead with 2C-E so I was very happy to achieve it at such a low dose.

I took a walk around the block at about T+3:45. It was about -10C outside and very, very still. It was dark, lightly snowing, and with very little wind. A nice, undisturbed snow-cover had blanketed the area and it was very serene and nice to look at. Plus there was some very cool hoarfrost on the branches of bushes and things which I found fascinating. Ended up going back inside and enjoying the rest of my night in the warmth.


Sorry for the long-winded ramblings! I just found this substance to be quite awesome for such a low-dose. Not powerfully "moving" but still deep and clear. I can't wait to try 14mg next week.

-edit- Hoar Frost Not my pic but is from my city from the same days :)
 
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Penthos said:
Finally got mine in the mail on Friday. I decided to not wait for my new scale and just do a liquid measurement with the whole batch (250mg). Did a 1:1 mg to ml ratio so as to avoid any silly mistakes when later attempting to dose. I'm not a retard when it comes to math but I figure the less margin for error with a substance with such a high dose-response curve the better.

I don't know how long this will last in the solution of filtered water but I figure, hell, it is a research chemical I might as well do a little research on it. If my money ends up getting wasted via degradation at least I can report it here and other people can avoid doing it as well :)

Anyway last night was my 1st brush with psychedelic PEA's. The only PEA's in general that I've done were MDMA and amphetamine. Started with a low dose (8mg) to a) get a feel for the substance and b) make sure that my measurements were correct (I always second guess myself :().

Time line was exactly as reported from numerous other users. First alerts @ 0:45. Peak @ 1:30. Comedown @ 5:00. The come-up triggered an IBS attack but it passed quickly. Very small amount of nausea that passed after 1:30'ish. Had a stomach-ache for the entirety of the trip, however. It wasn't terrible and it didn't do anything to shape the trip though and I attribute it to having not eaten in 10 hours and only eating mildly then. Sleep came fairly easily at T+6:30 but I was on a low dose. I can imagine not being able to sleep on higher doses for quite some time.

The effects felt almost identical to low-dose LSD but more clean feeling. Also had a more analytical mind-set then I'm used to on psychedelics. No visuals except for an extremely appreciated blanket of definition and clarity to detail. This was the effect I was looking for when I decided to go ahead with 2C-E so I was very happy to achieve it at such a low dose.

I took a walk around the block at about T+3:45. It was about -10C outside and very, very still. It was dark, lightly snowing, and with very little wind. A nice, undisturbed snow-cover had blanketed the area and it was very serene and nice to look at. Plus there was some very cool hoarfrost on the branches of bushes and things which I found fascinating. Ended up going back inside and enjoying the rest of my night in the warmth.


Sorry for the long-winded ramblings! I just found this substance to be quite awesome for such a low-dose. Not powerfully "moving" but still deep and clear. I can't wait to try 14mg next week.

-edit- Hoar Frost Not my pic but is from my city from the same days :)
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Be prepared for next time when you dose higher. I first dosed at 8mg and barely felt anything... or I thought that was about how I was supposed to feel. Next time we took 15mg each and it's completely different. Crazy visuals and sounds. So, don't think you have experienced the drug yet and get cocky, lol. If you didn't get any visuals then you haven't got the full experience.
 
Yeah I kind of figured my dose was very low. I was definitely tripping on 8mg but it certainly didn't compare to some of the other moderate-dose reports I've seen on here. My experience closely matched that of Aldous Huxley's 1st report of mescaline in Doors of Perception.

I will definitely remain humble and respectful in the face of this psychedelic. Especially since I'm still a baby in the PEA world :)
 
Even the jump to 10mg will make a massive difference.

Enjoy experimenting - it's a very rewarding material if it's treated with respect. :)
 
One question I did have about this substance was in regards to the stomach-ache/nausea. When I'm sober dramamine completely knocks me out. like I'll take two and be out for 8 hours (I take them for long flights :)).

Do you guys think the light stimulation effects from 2C-E would counteract the drowsiness from dramamine? I'd like to not fast for a half-day again prior to dosing. The stomach ache I had from my 8mg experience was most certainly caused by being hungry and stimulated. It didn't shape my trip but it was definitely distracting at times.
 
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Sorry, but what's the point of fasting for a whole day before dosing 2C-E?
If you feel that empty stomach is better, just don't eat anything for a few hours, otherwise have light meal prior dosing.
Also, did you stomach ache pass after come up?
 
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Sorry, but what's the point of fasting for a whole day before dosing 2C-E?
If you feel that empty stomach is better, just don't eat anything for a few hours, otherwise have light meal prior dosing.
Also, did you stomach ache pass after come up?
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Stomach ache persisted throughout the entire trip. And I honestly did mean that I'd fasted for half a day. Could've sworn that's what I'd typed.
 
@ penthos, re: dramamine

it seems to vary quite a bit. if you find 2c-e to be really "stimmy" (if it feels a lot like an amphetamine) you probably wont notice the drowsiness. i find 2c-e to be a weird mix of sedation and stimulation and have "slept" (in some sense of the word) while on 2c-e and diphenhydramine.

it definitely cures the nausea. my advice: just use one (25 mg) dramamine (about 20-30 mins before the 2c-e) and have a cup of green tea with it.

mxe cured the stomach pain for me but not the dizziness/nausea
 
I'm always amazed at how damn variable the effects of 2c-e are. I've experienced up to 60mg oral doses yet nothing matched the intensity of my trip yesterday at ~25mg (I think I may have found my "sweet spot")

the visuals were out of this world intense, both OEVs and CEVs... had music blasting, stood on my balcony in the sun gazing out at the park and the streets... so incredible. The anxiety/cracked out feeling on the come down though was almost unbearable, to the point where I had to snort some addy IRs to relieve the comedown (surprisingly worked well... comedown from the addy's was far less severe)

ive heard many people say that night time best brings out the visuals of 2ce, but i couldn't disagree more... the sunlight was perfect.
 
anything over 22 mgs of 2C-E for me is just fucking ridiculous.

16 mgs is a totally full on +++ for me. I usually like to dose 18-20 mgs though.
 
16-18 is where i usually go, have made a couple ventures into the 22-25mg range, definitely intense, unsure as to whether i'd ever take it higher or not
 
Just dosed my 14mg trip :) May pop into the social thread to have a laugh later on. Wish me luck :D
 
I'll be trying 2c-e for the first time this weekend. Likely at home in the comfort of my own room, not gonna be tripping with anyone else. Some of my family might be there, but tripping around them doesn't bother me. They're always asleep early anyways. Tripped on 25-30mg of 4-aco-dmt for the first time this last weekend, and it was epic and beautiful. Super excited for this 2c-e... highly considering dosing 18-20mg my first time. I've done 2c-i many times, but that's baby stuff, I feel. Purely visual for the most part. I've read a lot about 2c-e and its effects, but can any speculate on how long it'd take to kick in if I dissolved it in water and drank it on an empty stomach? I did the same thing with the 4-aco-dmt, and I started feeling effects within 15 minutes.
 
admittedly, i'm a hard head... but 60mg was definitely a "never again" dose and was an accident (took the wrong cap that had 3 doses in it...)

at that point the visual/auditory effects were actually less intense than my most recent trip of 25mg, but the "toxic" body feelings were overwhelming. so much vomiting... *shudder*

i'm thinking 25 is perfect though. every aspect (besides the body load obviously...) was great. the only non-DMT trip ive had that was more visual was 20mg of 2ce and 2 hits of moderate strength LSD followed by another 20mg two and half hours in... but the trip wasn't quite as incredible. the LSD sort of masked the serious headspace of 2c-e with its positive push... fun, but not significant.
 
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I've read a lot about 2c-e and its effects, but can any speculate on how long it'd take to kick in if I dissolved it in water and drank it on an empty stomach? I did the same thing with the 4-aco-dmt, and I started feeling effects within 15 minutes.
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This is how I take my 4-aco-dmt and 2C-E as I'm too impatient for dry measurements :)

For my 8mg trial I mixed the solution with a small glass of gingerale. Felt 1st alerts in 1 hour. This current trial I mixed 14mg with a small glass of an energy drink and I'm feeling 1st alerts at 30 minutes.

That's from my limited experience with liquid dosing :) Let's let someone else jump in for some info on dry-dosing to complete the picture.

-edit- Oh both trials were done on a completely empty stomach (save for the liquid ingested, of course)
 
I also use liquid measurement, and injest on an empty stomach. I find my body lets me know theres a hallucinogen in my system at around a half hour as well. however it doesnt amount to much until about an hour and a half after dosing, then it really kicks in.
 
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I also use liquid measurement, and injest on an empty stomach. I find my body lets me know theres a hallucinogen in my system at around a half hour as well. however it doesnt amount to much until about an hour and a half after dosing, then it really kicks in.
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QFT. Feeling the same thing right now. 1st drug I've ever taken where 1st alerts don't gradually develop into peak. It's kind of like a pre-high for 1.5 hours.

-edit- Okay maybe 1.0 hours.
 
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I'll be trying 2c-e for the first time this weekend. Likely at home in the comfort of my own room, not gonna be tripping with anyone else. Some of my family might be there, but tripping around them doesn't bother me. They're always asleep early anyways. Tripped on 25-30mg of 4-aco-dmt for the first time this last weekend, and it was epic and beautiful. Super excited for this 2c-e... highly considering dosing 18-20mg my first time. I've done 2c-i many times, but that's baby stuff, I feel. Purely visual for the most part. I've read a lot about 2c-e and its effects, but can any speculate on how long it'd take to kick in if I dissolved it in water and drank it on an empty stomach? I did the same thing with the 4-aco-dmt, and I started feeling effects within 15 minutes.
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Dissolved and drank works great, typically about the same come-up times. For me, the duration of the first few times involved an abnormally long come-up period, to the point where we even doubted the drug's effectiveness (won't do that again!) It was something on the order of one hour before feeling effects, and another 45 minutes until the come-up began. From there it was a good hour to build into a peak. Every time I've done it was on an empty stomach, so I know that didn't affect anything.

After the initial few times, the long come-up period seemed to dissolve. We began to feel it within half an hour, and come-up after only an hour. Much better.

If its your first time doing it, please do not start with that high of a dose. This substance is extremely potent and its never a good idea to blast-off around those that may not approve of said activities on a dose that you're unsure of the effects of. Angered parents, while tripping, I can't imagine being a good thing. Start a little lower, start a little earlier, and just have fun.
 
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