Piracetam and Methoxetamine? (MXE)

[grimsolem]

Hey guys,

Well I'm almost done with midterms for the quarter and I just received some delicious-looking MXE from a reputable vendor..

However the fact that it's exam-week means that I've been taking quite a bit of piracetam recently (1.2g 3-4x a day). Mostly it's to potentiate caffeine and improve memory but I also find it helps me recover from the hazy neurotoxic weekends..

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone had experience combining MXE and piracetam? Or perhaps other dissociatives?

The jury still seems to be out on what its effects on ketamine are, but it would make me quite sad to waste an experiment.

Also, assuming the piracetam may make the MXE fail, does anyone know how long the stuff will be in my system for?

Thanks all

 

[sekio]

Piracetam and the other *racetams are like anti-dissociatives in terms of action, FYI. I'm pretty sure Jamshyd said that the *racetams are basically antidotes for ketamine, and kill the dissociatiev action. This doesn't bode well for a *racetam+MXE combo.

 

[grimsolem]

Well I figure I'll share my experience here, since there doesn't seem to be much (ok, any) information on the net on this combo and this thread is likely to pop up if anyone searches...

Basically I was on a regiment of ~1.2g piracetam around 3-4x a day, and had been for about a week (and was definitely feeling the effects from it - essentially that pretty colorful 'clarity' that makes my brain feel like it did before the drugs).

Anyways, I woke up and took my regular dose in the morning, but abstained for the rest of the day. By 7pm or so, I took my first dose of MXE (scaled to about 13mg sublingually) and was blown away by the potency.. I had basically just been expecting a small k/opiate buzz but instead hit what I would equate to about 300mg DXM trip, though this wasn't in any way inconvenient.

I think there's a good possibility that the fact I was coming off of the pt around that time potentiated the MXE, because I certainly don't think it was any weaker. If the nature of the trip changed, I don't know, because this was my first try of MXE. However I dosed again on the next night and did not find any difference in effects between the two trips.

I would say that MXE was a little more 'cross-eyed' of a /dis/ high than kitty, but still better than DXM. I consumed around 84mg total that night, and while I certainly fell into the m-space I was still at least partially coherent verbally while not at the peak of it or while I kept my headphones off (I could still interact with friends, and order certain songs to be played or more doses scaled out (lol, such good friends) though I was incapable of really focusing on anything visually).

If anyone has any questions, they're welcome to ask.. However to summarize my experience here: Don't dose them at the same time and you'll be fine.

 

[Saucy]

This is just a bump and a feeler for any others with similar experience.

I have assumed for a long time that racetams cancel-out the effects of dissociatives.
I have seen several resorts supporting this notion from multiple sources, and have even myself twice used Piracetam to lessen an unpleasant experience involving DXM.

However,

Last night I experienced a 1600mg dose of piracetam transform a the tail end of a highly lucid 22mg 2C-I + 40mg Methoxetamine trip (both doses simultaneous administered intrarectally, Piracetam taken over 4 hours after initial dose) into a wildly powerful and intensely dissociative psychedelic experience. I have a lot more to write on this and will be providing a report and analysis for anyone who is interested. There are aspects of the nature of the ensuing trip that lead me to believe that the interaction of the piracetam and the methoxetamine was specifically responsible for some aspects of what was at times an intensely dissociative experience.

Additionally,

I have two distinct memories (from way back, mind you) of moderate dosages of piracetam transforming dosages of DXM significantly under the range that anyone would consider "first plateau" into trips that completely caught me off guard with their surprisingly consuming and euphoric nature which on both occasions produced effects largely more desirable than would be expected from a "first plateau" DXM trip.

Just food for thought.

 

[Saucy]

Update: I decided to put this to an informal test.

[45mg intranasal methoxetamine] was taken three hours after [3000mg Oral Piracetam]

Results pending.

 

[Saucy]

Update:

[45mg intranasal methoxetamine] taken three hours after [3000mg Oral Piracetam] produced significantly diminished dissociative effects. However a notable mood life, an increase in the ability to "quiet the mind", as well as an increased ability to become "absorbed" into music was also noted. It it clear that a moderate dissociate dose taken after piracetam will not produce the full, expected effects.

However, I remain convinced that there exists the possibility that the combination of a serotonergic psychedelic with a dissociative, followed by a dose of Piracetam had the ability to dramatically augment the trip, as well as to produce some potentially unique properties, partisularily in the trip's dissociative aspects. This is a topic that I will discuss in additional detail in my report of the aforementioned [2C-I + MXE + Piracetam] trip.

I will post a link to said report in this thread after it is completed.

 

[fishmael]

i'd like to see that trip report! did you mix your piracetam with an appropriate choline dosage? if so, how much?
and since its been a while since you last posted, what is the ending verdict for MXE and piracetam combined?

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

Just an anecdote I know, but at one time, I had clean forgotten that I had a probation appointment, several years back. I'd done a fair-sized IV shot of MXE, and was completely spannered. Realizing I was due in less than 15 minutes or so, I plugged several grams of piracetam, having read of its effects upon ketamine. Luckily for me, it worked, and rapidly brought me back down to earth. It didn't completely abort the trip, but I was able to speak again, to walkandfunction, and was able to pass off the residual ataxia etc. as a side effect of my prescription meds