Differentiating 2cb vs 2ci/others (reagents)

[FractalStructure]

If theoretically, your friend just got a bag of powder and a set of EZTEST Complete, and this powder was tested side by side with some 2ce (in this scenario, the "powder" is sold as 2cb). The "2cb" is tested with marquis and reacts very powerfully, with just a tiny bit turning very, very green. When testing for 2c-t-x, there is no real reaction (with different reagents). However, the KNOWN 2ce is also tested with marquis, and reacts in a similar, but much more minimal way (read: light green reaction, but not much), revealing that the substance in question does not test like 2ce would. I would usually expect this scenario to end up in the accidental purchase of what is actually 2ci or 2ce instead of 2cb, since they're much more easily available (I am aware that there is a whole galaxy of different 2c-x as well).

This isnt a "what is this drug" question as much as it is a question about how different 2c-x series chems react to the eztest reagents. Do 2cb and 2ci react in basically the same way? It can be deduced that this is not 2ce, and not 2c-t-x, but considering the large differences between drugs like 2cb vs something like 2c-d 2c-c and 2c-p, anyone know the reagent reactions of the different 2c's? Because the effects can quite a bit more drastic than say... taking "mdma" and getting mda/mdea.... Thanks

Side question I am reminded of: If molly reacts to marquis as purple/black, and then simons is buffered and turns blue, does that mean it is definitely mdma and not mda (no reaction with robadope)? I've also heard something about pipes reacting like mdma does, turning simons blue etc. Any truth to this? (this isnt as important as my primary question. I'm just new to reagents, I know the basic color charts, but still dont know everything, and have UTSFE but couldnt find anything that specific...

PPS: Do all tryptamines turn brown with marquis? Thats the impression I get so far (4-aco-dmt/ho-mipt/met) <same reaction

 

[TheAzo]

Differentiation of 2C-I from 2C-B/C is trivial. Differnentiation of 2C-B vs 2C-C is possible as well, though it demands at least a small amount of attention.

I did these tests and posted the results in PR Q&A some time ago. I have a few pages that i've been meaning to upload, and i'm going to repost the whole lot of them here once I finally do that.


2-3 mins:

Note 2C-E will give more of an "expected" reaction if you dump tons of it in.

30 mins later:

Trypts:

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All 4-sub-T's react similarly, but other T's do not.

 

[Dr Mamba]

Whaw, thanks a lot for those tests.
I got a bright green from 2CB with marquis, like the one for 2CC on your picture, do you remember if that may be possible ?

 

[FractalStructure]

Thanks! awesome

 

[TheAzo]

If you only put a tiny spec of it, it could look light green.

Use Mecke as well.

 

[FractalStructure]

The person testing used a decent amount of reagent, looks like it is indeed 2cb.

He didnt see the need to use mecke, mandelin + marquis over 30 minutes told the whole story.
Marquis= a medium green, but very, very GREEN and not black like 2ci (swim was aware it wasnt 2ce, so no need to test for that). Basically, 2ci has a much darker reaction with marquis, where its partially black and partially green, this didnt happen. Also, the mandelin was pretty clear, which indicates that it is not 2ci.

Then, after 30 minutes, the teal color change along with the mandelin makes it pretty clear that this has to be 2cb or 2cc (the latter isnt likely but its the only other possibility). SWIM would do a Mecke but I think he has used up enough on testing only to find out what he already suspected: 2cb.

Mods can close this thread, but those pics of reagents with 2c's and tryptamines is one of the most useful things ive seen on bluelight lately, thanks so much TheAzo
(4-crAZO-DMT)