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Positive The Tapering Support Thread v 2.0

Hi guys,

I am alive!
Doing Well.
I saw your post @Squeaky about Shroomy satori and ☹️ yeah , I miss him. I think he must be dead.
So, I wanted you to know I am still here, still fighting, gaining some ground!

Been off morphine for almost a year now.
I am still taking Suboxone, trying to lower that gradually.
I found a doctor who suffers with debilitating migraines herself and she really helped me.
She gave me a medication that comes in pill form, nasal mist, and injections that helps so much!
Sumatriptan is the name of it, I just take it when I feel one coming on or can use the other forms if things get bad fast.
I am actually not living in fear of them anymore.

I am using Gabapentin and cannabis gummies for the chronic pain and the suboxone helps some.

I have made a lot of progress,
I am driving again, doing things, being interested in things again….kinda coming back to life.
It is an amazing feeling.
Not being sick all the time is so great!

I am proud of you all.
Keep trying, don’t give up.
Things can get better.

Much love to you all.
❤️ P.O.
 
Jnowhere said:
Careful with that gabapentin, I 've heard horror stories then used it myself and think it is why I now have withdraws
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Yeah, I ran myself out of it and was scared because I had heard it had really bad withdrawals.
I take a lot of it too, 600 mg 3x’s a day.
I was pleasantly surprised to find it wasn’t that bad to just cold Turkey.
I went for 7 days and after 5 days I started to feel better without it.
The five days wasn’t that bad either.
Just a bit of a mental battle and some aches and pains.

I am thinking of just coming off that one and then use it only when the chronic pain flares up.
My mind was sharper without it.

It sounds like you are having withdrawal all the time due to the opiates.
Those take forever to go away.
Once you take them for awhile, it becomes almost impossible to just stop taking them.
I tried to just stick it out once and I could not do it due to my body not being to physically withstand the withdrawal for as long as it takes.
I was going to die. Could not eat, sleep…was down to like 96 pounds.
I had to start taking them again.

If you tell me more about what has been going on with you and what you have been taking, I can help you better.
I have got a lot of experience with trial and error.
Hang in there.
 
Jnowhere said:
10mg oxycodone 3x aday no acetaminophen( liver issues, besides 8.9 MG in regular 10's with acetaminophen and 11mg oxycodone without it. Switched 4x a day 2 months ago over 6 years of use
Stopped 30mg Morphine Sulfate er 2x a day
2monthes ago over 6 years of daily use
Switched 2mg Ativan(lorazepam) 3x a day around 6 years, switched. To 10mg diazepam(Valium) 3x a day, 2 months ago, not a problem
Got gabapentin 2 months ago 300 MG 3x a day, quit use, once in a while. Was comfort med took it more, for legal reason not open to discuss


Clonidine .1mg 3x a day, not taking it much anymore
Stopped 4 years of heavy pot smoking in May, dad was having problems, needed to be alert, he died in August
Kratom, used one $15 bag I bought at smoke shop. Pretty worthless, while quitting morphine.
Abused alcohol for 20+ years, can't relapse, tried several times, I am now allergic to alcohol, which I suppose is good, I would be dead if I could drink. Begged God for help and now I itch like crazy if I drink. hugh amounts of benadryl will not stop it. Throw up, at smell and can't keep it down or get a buzz. Should've prayed for this in College, I would be successful.
I was strictly a drunk, may have tried this or that but alcohol is only one I love, not anymore.
miserable, not sure why,( other than my family is dead) but I mean sick, but withdraws should have stopped
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I am very sorry to hear about your dad passing on.
That is really hard and you are definitely going through a grief process.
He is not gone. I promise.
I know because I had a Near Death Experience.
You will be reunited again.
He watches over you.
He is part of you!

Sounds like you could be having Liver problems due to the alcohol.
Thank God that you are not drinking still.
The liver is an amazing organ, it is the only organ that can regenerate itself, if given care and time.

Stopping the Morphine ER 2 months ago is definitely still messing with you.
The heavy cannabis smoking stop is probably still messing with you.
Sounds like the benzodiazepines are about equal to what you are used to.

What is the main symptom that is bothering you?
Are you sleeping?
Are you eating?

I think you sound a bit depressed.
Going through grief sucks.
Keep talking to others, try to keep busy and get a routine going.

I send you comfort and love.
hugs
❤️ P.O.
 
My relapse is over with, hopefully for good. I felt so awful hiding it from my boyfriend but didn't tell him because i don't want problems and noone and relapse for good. Don't know why my dumbass decided to IV it. Good thing it's Canada and i can wear a long sleeve until marks go. He tried to get lucky last night and i faked period cramps.

Lying to someone that cares about you so much sucks
 
Jennn said:
My relapse is over with, hopefully for good. I felt so awful hiding it from my boyfriend but didn't tell him because i don't want problems and noone and relapse for good. Don't know why my dumbass decided to IV it. Good thing it's Canada and i can wear a long sleeve until marks go. He tried to get lucky last night and i faked period cramps.

Lying to someone that cares about you so much sucks
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Yes it does.

Please don’t do that to yourself again.
I know how it goes though.
It is important to Forgive yourself.

Carry on!
You got this.
❤️🙈
 
You are right about depression but getting off Benzos and all opiates is a mess, that I don't know what to do about. They help and they cause problems, you can't just quit, especially if you need them but are a pain to deal with or without.
 
Jnowhere said:
You are right about depression but getting off Benzos and all opiates is a mess, that I don't know what to do about. They help and they cause problems, you can't just quit, especially if you need them but are a pain to deal with or without.
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Jnowhere said:
Kiely: Thank you
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<3

You can do it. It can get better so that it doesn't have to get worse. You have been doing good so far. I mean with the big mix.

It gets confusing I know. Or feels like it.

You have to find comfort because it will get worse if you don't ration. I just. I'm rooting for you. You can do this now. You have to try. . . it is a start.

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Just saying hello. Please get better though. This is what we all have to go through to heal. I mean you are very strong. <3

I'm tired. I am trying everyday to feel better.

I am too weak to pray. But when I can we have to do this okay !!! 🌻🕊️

Oh I missed my doctors appt. Long story. Now I am waiting until the end of Nov. Long one. It's just thirty more days. It doesn't mean shit to me really.

Maybe he will approve my meds and I probably need blood work. fck it. See. But I get better. It just takes me a bit longer than it could be. Sometimes.

I hope that you have the strength to keep it going well and all. C'mon you are going to do this. Alright ?!? You have the right goals just keep working through it all.

I'm down to imodium !! So I got this too. Stay Focus. woo woo. okay. <3 k's :)
 
edit: I took imodium to make me feel better. I was feeling so anxious the other day and I took some and it took my shakes away finally after waiting all day. But now I am out.
But that last dose was like a last gift from somewhere. Out of nowhere.
I wish that I had some more thought in case I ever need it again.
But the amazing thing is that it took effect immediately and I was able to stop shaking. Well there you have it. I found something to help.

Hey Thnxxx. Ya awesome ! @Jnowhere 🌻

teehee I have a new cat now too. 🐈‍⬛

Sorry about your bird also. 🦜

gtsy
 
I miss a doctors appointment I could die. The problem is it would be a very miserable death. I don't think they would find my body for a while, nobody would miss me, I don't mean that in a sad or depressing way. There just aren't anyone around who would notice I was gone.
 
Jnowhere said:
I miss a doctors appointment I could die. The problem is it would be a very miserable death. I don't think they would find my body for a while, nobody would miss me, I don't mean that in a sad or depressing way. There just aren't anyone around who would notice I was gone.
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Oh No. Stay with us. Or strong. Here.

I am mad I missed my appointment. But if I would get a mailbox it would have worked. I am lazy and I just text. And they only know how to call.

When is the next time that you have an appointment for ??

You better get there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:


edit: they had to canx and I didn't know. till I got there. but we still had a fun time 'out there'

okay bye. I hope you better <3<3<3<3<3<3<3🦜 i know.
 
Jnowhere said:
No 2mg of Ativan( loazepam). Ativan .5, 1mg, 2mg. Diazepam 2mg, 5mg, 10 MG. Xanax (alazepam or something close) .25mg, .5mg, 1mg. I switched from Ativan to Valium( diazepam) to get off them. Ativan, has short half life and diazepam a long one. Easier to get off, didn't you tell me to switch? ( not being a smart ass) They kept giving me Ativan in the hospital and at doctors offices. I think it has something to do with less opiod interaction. I can't tell the difference. Scared shitless of withdraws as all my meds( taken, for most part properly, have less effect. I have alcohol, not drug problems( yes I know alcohol is a drug, so is caffeine) as of yet.
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Ativan is better for needing an immediate response, like a panic attack. Diazepam is slow to act but lasts forever. The problem with mixing opiates with benzos is that the benzo makes you sleep and the opiate shuts off your biological automatic breathing. So…. you would pass out and die. It is far less likely to happen with Ativan than Valium.
 
elgoucho9 said:
Still feeling terrible since panning off the drugs roughly a week ago. I'm wondering am i in for the long haul with pregablin withdrawals here. I mean i sleep ok at night but mood hasn't really fully come back yet, i'm sore all over almost and just knackered all day doing nothing. Will give it another week or so but if i'm still feeling like this i may be forced to reconsider quitting completely as it's no use feeling so sore and worn out all the time. Literally no energy appetite or anything :|
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DONT GIVE UP!

It will get better. Imagine spending thousands of dollars fixing your car and sending it to the junk yard a week later because the radio stopped working. You made it through the worst part. Don’t waste the work you already put into this project!
 
Jnowhere said:
Are these all purpose drugs, but we don't know how they work really? Is it like a placebo with side effects?
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Gaba drugs numb the nervous system. From the brain to the toes. Diabetics get them because of the damage sugar crystals do to the capillaries in their fingers and toes. I get it for the nerve damage I have in my spine. It’s prescribed in the UK for psychological disorders (not so much in the USA).

It’s really a game of throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. Doctors can’t see inside your body, so they just make an educated guess and make your body/brain a petri dish.

Let’s see what this drug does? Didn’t work? Ok… try this one.
 
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