you have to learn to hit the dosage nail on the head. It's a VERY sensitive one. Example: 1.2 g w/5g of krat will have me in a PERFECT place of peace, however, 1.6 all at once would make me a swoony mess. I never start with LARGER than 1.2 g doses, and never add more than another gram in many hours seperated 500mg boosters. GOING ABOVE 2g ALMOST GUARANTEES SICKNESS. I have no idea what sort of insane midwest rubes populate these boards and say shit like "10g seems like a reasonable dose" O wait, I'm from oklahoma originally, I have every idea: People with gaba receptors so BEYOND fried by alcohol and benzos that they can't feel a gaba drug unless they're fighting. But yeah, if you're reasonable at all 1.2 will do it. You gotta wait an hour or so though, it takes a minute to kick in. Typically i eat 1.2g first thing, wait an hour, eat 5g krat THEN eat breakfast. All that herb powder and hydrochloric acid can be a LITTLE caustic, but, no pain, no gain. Seriously though, more than 2x a week will land you in a nasty place. PHENIBUT WITHDRAWALS MAKE GHB AND BENZOS AND ALCOHOL LOOK LIKE A WALK IN THE PARK. If you have any concept of those withdrawals, that should take your breath away a little. I know this and still use it and STILL find myself doing it a LITTLE too often, there's some good posts on here - search gaba-b and anhedonia, scary ass shit.