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Bupe I just got rejected as a new patient because I told them I'm prescribed suboxone

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I can't fucking believe this shit! :X S I've been looking for a primary care doctor for ages, pretty much all year. My area is growing fast and I called literally ever doctor's office around, twice and some three times. Usually had ti leave messages. Most don't even call back, some do and say sorry, we're nor accepting new patients. It's been crazy.

Well, today I called 2 places. The first one answered, and it's my preferred choice, it's a private practice that my girlfriend goes to and is really happy with, she says the doctors actually spend time with you and pay attention, as it's not part of a giant hospital medical system. They asked me a series of questions, and then when they asked what medications I'm prescribed, I told them my Taltz, for psoriatc arthritis... and then I said suboxone. She totally changed her whole tone of voice and started sounding dismissive instead of friendly. She was like "well, sir, unfortunately we won't provide that medication so you are not a good fit for us, so we have to decline you" I was like wait, what? Well, I have a different provider for that, you wouldn't be prescribing it. She said "it doesn't matter, we don't work with patients who are on narcotic drugs" and then hung up.

It's fucking discrimination, is what it is! I am 39 years old, and I stupidly have not been to a primary care physician in over 10 years. I have concerns... I am relatively certain my prostate is enlarged, and I have back pain, and I just in general want to be on top of my health. If I have cancer, I want to catch it early. What the fuck is this discrimination? Do people on opiate replacement because they're trying to improve their lives not deserve medical care? Fuck that shit.

I'm so pissed off about it.

My question is this. The second place called me back and said they are taking new patients and they emailed me a link to a web form the fill out information. The instructions say "enter the information below so we can see if you'll be a good fit for our family practice". At the bottom, as I suspected, there is a field for current medications. I have it all filled out minus the suboxone. Do you think I should submit it without mentioning the suboxone? Or are they going to know? I use an online provider, QuickMD, whichm insurance does not cover (though it does cover the prescription).

It sucks because I want to be honest... I have concerns about the suboxone, too, and I want to start tapering off next year. Also I am almost positive my testosterone is way down because of it. But mostly, I am concerned about my prostate, and just want a dctor who can regularly see me and evaluate my health so I can make sure I remain healthy as I age. So maybe lying would be worth it since I'd get that other stuff. But maybe they'd see it on my records and then I'd be lying. And maybe this place won't deny me for being on suboxone.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Suggestions are welcome...
 
Yeah I wouldn't relay that information to your primary care physician, unless you know them and have that sort of relationship. Unlikely that they will discover that you are taking it unless they are faced with the prospect of prescribing you controlled substances in the course of your treatment (which is itself very unlikely).

Still I'm surprised they turned you down so flat out based on that disclosure. I suppose if you didn't give identifying information (and they have multiple receptionists) you could potentially try again months from now minus that disclosure.

While I don't recommend you giving yourself a prostate exam ☝ you can order prostate specific antigen (PSA) bloodwork yourself online and have it performed by your local lab (the results are emailed to you). Testosterone as well. I order bloodwork all the time, can send you links to reputable online vendors (essentially just a bunch of random doctors that sign off on the bloodwork, no insurance involved). But of course this is no substitute for an internist (everyone should have one).
 
Mate the first mob declined because you wernt a good "fit"...this second mob have similar wording ...being a good fit.I have absolutely no experience with this situation ...but hey a white lie is sometimes needed to achieve the result required.If they did question you about it just say you accidently overlooked and made a mistake filling out form .
 
I believe I will just submit the form now, and finally go to bed. If they end up questioning me, I'll say I forgot and havem't been on it long (which is true; just a few months).

Thanks guys. <3

I still think it's so fucked. Are they afraid that m "depraved drug addicted" elf is going to ogle the children in their "family practice"? Makes no sense to me...
 
I’m no Law Wizard nor do I know for certain if this is correct at all or even possible but I imagine their has to be some precedent for this as they obviously have a policy to actively turn away anyone who is thought to be a former or current addict based on the prescription they’re prescribed. This is beyond unethical and immoral and if you do (god forbid, money isn’t worth your health) end up with a form of cancer or any serious disease,Illness, or ailment and you can prove that you were turned away and unable to get medical attention for no reason other than taking a medicine that is prescribed to you by a medical professional, shjt for that matter sue the one who prescribed it to you for not disclosing this happening to individuals thus causing you to be unable to get medical attention in a timely matter which caused your disease to be able to fester and increase the likelihood of fatality and emotional damage due to your own death being a constant thought/burden, and then also sue all the places which turned you away especially if it’s as you said and they actually admitted their illegal reasoning on the phone to you, that call will be recorded and is retrievable by your attorney.we’re talking about the medical field here so this is no surprise, the same people that will smile in a old man cancer patients face assuring him it will all be okay and sympathizing / consoling him regarding his finances being ruined due to his cancer and then proceed to charge him 10,000 for that pep talk and 5,000 for his hospital food dinner.
 
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I’m no Law Wizard nor do I know for certain if this is correct at all or even possible but I imagine their has to be some precedent for this as they obviously have a policy to actively turn away anyone who is thought to be a former or current addict based on the prescription they’re prescribed. This is beyond unethical and immoral and if you do (god forbid, money isn’t worth your health) end up with a form of cancer or any serious disease,Illness, or ailment and you can prove that you were turned away and unable to get medical attention for no reason other than taking a medicine that is prescribed to you by a medical professional, shjt for that matter sue the one who prescribed it to you for not disclosing this happening to individuals thus causing you to be unable to get medical attention in a timely matter which caused your disease to be able to fester and increase the likelihood of fatality and emotional damage due to your own death being a constant thought/burden, and then also sue all the places which turned you away especially if it’s as you said and they actually admitted their illegal reasoning on the phone to you, that call will be recorded and is retrievable by your attorney.we’re talking about the medical field here so this is no surprise, the same people that will smile in a old man cancer patients face assuring him it will all be okay and sympathizing / consoling him regarding his finances being ruined due to his cancer and then proceed to charge him 10,000 for that pep talk and 5,000 for his hospital food dinner.
Unfortunately, being turned away because you are a recovering addict, or because you are on certain meds is not discrimination. Those are not protected classes.

Doctors can turn you away because you don't have insurance they take, regardless if you say you can cash pay.

Hospital Emergency Rooms that take federal funds on the other hand, MUST see all patients that present to the ER.

If you're worried about your prostate, I would develop an acute case of bloody urine that magically resolved before you got to the ER.
 
You are eloquently cursed with knowledge, the person yu mentioned is a feckless dullard. Dont get mad at sheep.take care.
 
Had similar issue in the uk but this wasnt even private. Soon as i mentioned valium which the nhs perscribes me they said they were not willing to take patients on who are on valium lmao...

Told my old doctors they said thats illegal.

It really sucks the stigma surrounding 'drugs" in a place drugs are perscribed.
 
That and being ostracized from a 12 step program for taking medication that stopped me from repeating suicide. Woe is me.
"Being alone is better than being in bad company.".
 
Who prescribes you bupe? When I moved to a new city I just called up the local methadone clinic and now the doctor that I was assigned, also acts as my family doctor, which is cool cause they would normally be hard to find here, being on suboxone actually helped me. Its straight fucked up that they are discriminating against you like that. One thing I do to avoid that, is just write buprenorphine instead of suboxone. People often don't know what it means or misread/mishear it as bupropion which is convenient. Or I just omit it entirely. My dentist doesn't need to know what I'm on. I think its in your best interest to do the same, at least until you're in the door. Doesn't hurt to dress sharp for in person visits too. Wear a suit and tie. Don't want to compound the stereotype. Plus its kind of fun to mess with people's preconceived notions.
 
Talking about a patient being a 'good fit' is already a red flag. You're not applying to join a company, you're there to get treatment ffs.
 
Talking about a patient being a 'good fit' is already a red flag. You're not applying to join a company, you're there to get treatment ffs.
Well , "a good fit", is more meant to imply, why some people , for an example, smoke their crystal, and why I put it in my nose, a matter of choice.
 
One thing I do to avoid that, is just write buprenorphine instead of suboxone. People often don't know what it means or misread/mishear it as bupropion which is convenient.
Hey this is almost 100% true, here I had problems with my driving licence cause of Subutex then my psych wrote and she said I will write buprenorphine you will see that in that private clinic where you need to get checked If she asks you at the end you just say it's cause of your fybro and back pain and it was like that 2cn time they gave me back my license and I never got a ticket in 17 years driving. Most of those new doctors wont even read buprenorphine.
The other thing is Yeah I'm also with the opinion that you fill maybe without than after you can also say that it was from opioids 10years ago now is for your pain.
You even get bupe from online and you are paying it right or your insurance is backing you.
This should be your privacy right well at least in EU.
I just can't believe doctors that pledge their oath (Hypokrat) can rule out people like that, the last option should be lawyering up.
 
For fuck's sake
I cant let go, treatment, is not support groups, red flag is a term that imo, a term similar to the term, "awfulize ", that tells me psychological euphamismistic terms .
"Treatment", is what I've been to 4 times for addiction, and in 1985 and 86 for behavioural actions. Ffs tells me a slightly irritable reaction.so I'll tell you what, those red flags tell me to just let this go or for a euphemistic term "negative attention seeking skills, or legally put, argumentative. So. I'll will "rest my case", and practice my nonverbal social disorder, and apply it to a euphemistic NEW term, " nontextual disorder" and be silent.
 
For fuck's sakei
I cant let go, treatment, is not support groups, red flag is a term that imo, a term similar to the term, "awfulize ", that tells me psychological euphamismistic terms .
"Treatment", is what I've been to 4 times for addiction, and in 1985 and 86 for behavioural actions. Ffs tells me a slightly irritable reaction.so I'll tell you what, those red flags tell me to just let this go or for a euphemistic term "negative attention seeking skills, or legally put, argumentative. So. I'll will "rest my case", and practice my nonverbal social disorder, and apply it to a euphemistic NEW term, " nontextual disorder" and be silent.
I seriously have no idea what you're on about mate.

I got the impression you were asking me what I meant by 'ffs'. And I said that because I was getting annoyed on behalf of OP because the clinic turned him away for a stupid value judgement, which clinicians ought not to make. No medical professional ought to refuse a client for treatment just because he's on substitution.
 
Here some doctors screen patients out who are on narcotics to. My doctor recently retired and i had to go see a nurse practitioner and immediately when i mentioned im on morphine her tone changed and she mentioned taking me off my pills even my goddamn psych meds which she couldnt do.

Long story short i got a virtual doctor now who only asks me where i want my script sent. Maybe try that route if its even legal in the US.
 
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