Desperate Panic / Anxiety attacks - whose dealt with them and how have you managed them?

I've had to deal with 5 years of anxiety induced panick attacks and a persistent sense of impending doom. It was so severe at some point that just lying down would start a panic attack.

I'm almost fully recovered now.
SSRI (escitalopram) and meditation truly helped.

As for the SSRI side effects on libido. You can always counter that with Ciaslis.
 
Yea I was using chlorpheniramine as an SSRI/SNRI pretty much. Today's my last day not sober tho. I'm already getting nervous.

Your last day getting high, my first day getting high, it's funny how the world works in cycles isnt it?

Just kidding I'm sober. You'll be OK man you can do it. If I'm doing it you can definitely do it I been shooting dope for the last 7 years.
 
For me 5-HTP is the holy grail for anxiety.

Cant remember how I discovered it but I started taking it back then in August 2020.

It works for me like XTC, avtually better because no comefown, I have no feelings of shame, no anxiety , high libido, I think I have mania if I take too much and yes mania is fun.

But to be honest I took high doeses hehehe

Not every 5-htp product works, it has to be in powder form and the powder has to be very specific.

Unfortunately right now the colour of the powder changed and its not so effective anymore.

I had few panic attacks in march 2020 when covid started.
 
Well for those who haven’t followed my other thread I’ve been experiencing episodes in increasing frequency and intensity.

I’ve been having anxiety and panic attacks that are causing me such fight or flight response my legs are going numb. Google says this can happen the body shuts off blow flow to non essential parts of the body.

I’m not sure the reason but it’s either substance abuse related or I had a stroke which is causing it.

What have you done to help? What’s the outlook from here cause honesty this is causing me extreme anxiety and depression I’m never gonna be OK again. I wanted to start to train MMA and fight and it’s not gonna fucking happen if I’m freaking out every day.

Mainly the episodes have happened at work, using a leaf blower and I begin to panic and the noise scares me and I spiral.

Tomorrow I have a doctors appointment my primary is a pretty intelligent woman. I’m gonna tell her about all this.

I can’t really take benzos and don’t really want to have to rely on addictive substances as my nature is ill get addicted and I know experiencing panic attacks coming off benzos sounds like I’d probably commit suicide.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the threads I’m just going through a tough fucking time right now. Today I started to have a panic attack in the barber chair. I almost had to get up and leave. I can’t live my life like this man it’s fucking embarrassing. I feel like I can’t even cope with daily activities anymore.
Have a beer go through breathing exercises be with someone you trust and love and just reconise the signs no your not having a heart attack I get panic attacks sometimes or did and I know I'm having one when I get pins and needlessin my head and arms etc my senses heighten like sounds are more pronounced visions gets brigheter I hyperventilating so that's why breathing is good cool yourself down with ice drink water focus on 5 things in the room when you starts to notice the affects you realise it's just a panic attack and have to soldier it out and just think if you are gonna die which it feels like you are then it is what it is everyone will die one day so just acept it but yea if you have some benzos they help a lot
 
First, I’ll take 50-100mg of Seroquel. (I don’t always have access to benzos.) Then I just sit/lay in a comfy spot and take deep breaths til I feel like I’m regaining my composure.

I had one last night, and it wasn’t as bad as the last few times I’ve had them. (I knew what to expect.) But the first time I had one, I honestly thought I was gonna die. And I made the mistake of smoking some weed to help. That just made it a million times worse!
 
reconise the signs no your not having a heart attack
What I'm about to say will probably sound ridiculous but I'll go ahead and throw it out there...

But it helps me to take an Aspirin during a panic attack. I tell myself that I couldn't possibly have a heart attack with aspirin in my system! I know that's silly but it does help comfort me
 
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How do you guys put quotes under all of your posts btw?

you click reply in the bottom right hand corner of the post you want to respond to and it does it automatically.


on the subject of panic attacks, I have them all the time. The only thing that helps me is exercise, benzos, and cold water.

I have periods though when nothing helps. And I try my best not to use benzos every single day. If you do that they'll stop working or you'll run out. Then you'll really be fucked.

Ive had some kind of muscular or nerve pain in my left shoulder for ten years or more. Every time it flares up, combined with my IBS, I convince myself I'm dying and the circular anxiety hell begins.
 
Might get arrested tonight boys this hospital is really pushing me to the fucking limit denying me proper treatment I’m about to break shit and freak the fuck out.

If I go MIA I’m back in jail
Sorry man. Guess where I was too this weekend? County jail. Not a fun place. I personal feel most of the deputies go out of their way to be torturous Nazis. My hearing was too soon and I couldn't get bail right away. The hearing went horrible. My jaw dropped. Talking about anxiety. For sure got it bad. Paced the cell all night. They did give me 8 mg Sub strips and Gabapents and other sleep stuff.

So I might be having a "vacation" soon too. Bang on the pipes Maybe we can communicate. Morse code kinda stuff.
 
Sorry man. Guess where I was too this weekend? County jail. Not a fun place. I personal feel most of the deputies go out of their way to be torturous Nazis. My hearing was too soon and I couldn't get bail right away. The hearing went horrible. My jaw dropped. Talking about anxiety. For sure got it bad. Paced the cell all night. They did give me 8 mg Sub strips and Gabapents and other sleep stuff.

So I might be having a "vacation" soon too. Bang on the pipes Maybe we can communicate. Morse code kinda stuff.

I've been off probation and outta the system since 2018. I was trying to keep it that way. Thankfully a little disorderly conduct will get swallowed by my lawyer but there goes $2000 more dollars.

Thankfully I bailed right out of the fish bowl holding tank. The jail in my county is literal hell they wouldn't give you pepto even coming off methadone it is barbaric I've seen people in some of the worst detoxes. Terrible place
 
@OpiateKiller I've dealth with panic attacks my whole life and the absolute best way to deal with mine, in my experience, is to make sure I'm not doing anything sketchy or illegal or overwhelming or anything that will cause me panic later on, in the first place. Sometimes this literally involves taking a daily inventory of my actions, of my plans, and of thinking how my planned actions for that day are going to influence my feelings later on. Then, over the course of the day I can stop and take notice of how my body is feeling in reaction with the choices I'm making as I go. If I start to feel the anxiety/panic rise, I can tell that I'm not adhering to the promises I made to myself at the beginning of the day.

Does that make sense?
 
@OpiateKiller I've dealth with panic attacks my whole life and the absolute best way to deal with mine, in my experience, is to make sure I'm not doing anything sketchy or illegal or overwhelming or anything that will cause me panic later on, in the first place. Sometimes this literally involves taking a daily inventory of my actions, of my plans, and of thinking how my planned actions for that day are going to influence my feelings later on. Then, over the course of the day I can stop and take notice of how my body is feeling in reaction with the choices I'm making as I go. If I start to feel the anxiety/panic rise, I can tell that I'm not adhering to the promises I made to myself at the beginning of the day.

Does that make sense?

Yes it makes perfect sense. Unfortunately right now the only time I’m having panic attacks are my required responsibilities. Work, and mandatory meetings are my nightmares these days. I never know when I’m gonna start to freak out and i wanna not work but I’m helping my house manager and I wanna skip the meetings or take a benzo but I can’t have to be in attendance and even worse I have to share where I’m at which sucks when everyone around me is killing it with 6+ months or years clean and I’m over here like ya I got 30 days and I’m a nervous wreck having panic attacks and can’t even handle life. I feel like such a pussy and I can’t fix this and it sucks so bad
 
Yes it makes perfect sense. Unfortunately right now the only time I’m having panic attacks are my required responsibilities. Work, and mandatory meetings are my nightmares these days. I never know when I’m gonna start to freak out and i wanna not work but I’m helping my house manager and I wanna skip the meetings or take a benzo but I can’t have to be in attendance and even worse I have to share where I’m at which sucks when everyone around me is killing it with 6+ months or years clean and I’m over here like ya I got 30 days and I’m a nervous wreck having panic attacks and can’t even handle life. I feel like such a pussy and I can’t fix this and it sucks so bad
But dude, that's because you're not being true to yourself, and you're not being true to the people who you try to remain accountable e.g. the people at your meetings, your house manager etc. You're living a lie and you're subconsciously afraid of being caught out. It gives you panic attacks because you know it's only a matter of time before someone catches you out, and you know how shitty it feels to be caught out as a liar.

I'm only saying this because I know from experience dude <3
 
But dude, that's because you're not being true to yourself, and you're not being true to the people who you try to remain accountable e.g. the people at your meetings, your house manager etc. You're living a lie and you're subconsciously afraid of being caught out. It gives you panic attacks because you know it's only a matter of time before someone catches you out, and you know how shitty it feels to be caught out as a liar.

I'm only saying this because I know from experience dude <3

To be honest I feel like it’s too late for me. A pastor told me every time you walk away from God it’s 7 times harder to find him and I’ve denied God so many times I’ve spat in his face now he’s aptting in mine I used to feel his presence and felt his presence when I prayed I don’t feel any of that anymore. Addicts who deny the fact God is the only reason they’re still on this planet make me laugh. I know I’d be long gone if he didn’t keep me here I just don’t know why I’m still getting chances I don’t deserve to be here anymore

Maybe I don’t make an effort to be better because I feel the amount of effort it would take is beyond my capabilities. I can’t be the AA hero I can’t leas you to the light I can’t even see it myself anymore I can’t be honest in any of my affairs how could I be in all of them? There’s no one on this earth I’m entirely honest with

My house manager is like one of
My best friends even if he found out I was on phenibut or Lyrica he’d cover for me and even if my UA was dirty he’d hide that for me too. I have no accountability the only one accountable for myself is me I have no probation no external factors besides homelessness to not stick a needle in my arm.

To really find God and the peace I need to actually change and find peace and put my anxiety at ease would take an entire change of character. Like AA says I’d have to change everything about myself and I’m not sure I’ll ever be capable or willing to do that anymore. So I’m a goner. Like it says I’m the preamble ..

There was those such unfortunates. They could not be entirely honest with themselves. Outright mental defectives. They are not at fault. They are incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which requires rigorous honesty.

Basically I’m as good as dead and I can’t change to change that fact and it’s so sad but it’s just the truth
 
I know this is an old post and I haven't read through all the comments but I wanted to mention what I take for panic attacks. I've had them for about 5-6 years now, some very severe ones with multiple symptoms all at one time that sent me to the ER several times. I started taken herbal supplements - damiana, ashwagandha, rhodiola, schisandra, maca root and sometimes kava. I alternate between them because rhodiola and damiana lose their effectiveness after 1-2 weeks if taken every day. You have to take a break from them for maybe a few weeks. I don't know about the others. so I take them in rotation. I take one every 8-12 hours otherwise I would have PA every day. If I forget to take something I start getting small symptoms that remind me.
 
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As Ive got older Ive realised evryone got their issues that gives them anxiety, worry and stress. Most of it we do to ourselves. But at the same time it is a natural reaction, and would say to you, use it as a positive to drive yourself. That's what your pastor is alluding to, if you dont try and run away you wont overcome, you wont develop and that's when things become overwhelming.
When things dont go right, its not a fail, it is a learning curve, it will make you stronger, you become more resilient, adaptable and dependable.

Dont worry about what other people at work are thinking or doing - do your job as you are asked by your superior; use your meetings with them to discuss where you are having troubles, but also talk about what you'd like to do, what you can bring to the table and how you can take what you do at work to the next level. Guarantee if you do that, you'll blow them away, and will have a greater respect for you.
 
I know this is an old post and I haven't read through all the comments but I wanted to mention what I take for panic attacks. I've had them for about 5-6 years now, some very severe ones with multiple symptoms all at one time that sent me to the ER several times. I started taken herbal supplements - damiana, ashwagandha, rhodiola, schisandra, maca root and sometimes kava. I alternate between them because rhodiola and damiana lose their effectiveness after 1-2 weeks if taken every day. You have to take a break from them for maybe a few weeks. I don't know about the others. so I take them in rotation. I take one every 8-12 hours otherwise I would have PA every day. If I forget to take something I start getting small symptoms that remind me.
I edited out the last bit of your comment. While it's perfectly fine to recommend supplements and tell your experience, we have pretty strict rules in place to prohibit sourcing or soliciting of any kind, even for supplements. The only type we allow is sources for direct HR tools, like test kits, naloxone, and things of that nature. Even then there's no shilling particular brands or companies.

Just wanted to make you aware, feel free to read through our BLUA to get more acquainted with the rules, as well each sub forum has its own particular set of rules and functions.

All the same, no big deal, welcome to Bluelight!
 
I haven't had many, mostly when getting extremely pressured

I suppose i dissociate a bit. No worries. It's a decent mechanism. Whatever works. Try and find a minimally uncomfortable body position. Having someone care and show concern is good of course. For me personally it lets me go all "nah i got this" and shift the power to me.

Most important is knowing what it is and it's not killing you, at least not instantly.
 
If you really want to deal with anxiety/panic attacks you have to challenge what it causing them. Medication can work, for a short time anyway. I found that medication (sertraline, citalopram, mirtazapine, fluoxotine etc) all served a purpose until they no longer served a purpose at all. And if they continue to work, the side effects from taking them for me are not worth it. Numbing yourself to life isn't the cure and from my experience with meds and anxiety/panic attacks, that's all they did in the end.

There are no magic bullets. Learning to deal with these things is key. Anxiety you deal with by facing the anxiety head on. When your mind is telling you something is wrong you keep moving and prove it to be false. If you envision the worst case scenario unfolding find out whether it's going to happen. Have the courage to fight it and you'll find what you think might happen actually doesn't. There's a story in your mind playing out and the minute you start believing it and not questioning this story is the minute you take the abit and get hooked. How long will you go for a ride? Depends on how long you let the ride go on. You can get off anytime you want by seeing it for what it is - a story in your mind. Experimentation is very important. If it's busy places you lose your nerve, busy places is where you start. If it's talking to people that buckles you, start talking to people more. You can use each and every situation as a learning experience and an opportunity to experiment with different ways of handling the situation. Whatever the story, it's your job to contradict it by doing something that, according to the story, would be the end of the world. If you're in a busy place and you start getting anxious and your mind is saying "People are judging you" then make owl noises or some shit. Flap your arms about. Do something outlandish. The point here is to prove that it's not the end of the world and to challenge the beliefs behind the anxiety and to do it in a way that counteracts the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is someone comes up to you and asks if you're okay and in which case you can say "Yes, thanks. And you?". God forbid they don't approve of your antics but hey, they aren't in your shoes and they probably aren't committing to exposure therapy like you are learning that it's perfectly okay to challenge what you are going through and be the better person for finding ways to succeed through your experiences. In some situations you might even want to face rejection. In many cases and if the anxiety revolves around other people, the best medicine is learning to give less f*cks and to make a joke out of the seriousness of having to be in the headspace where your are consumed by others, their thoughts, behaviours, expectations etc. In other words, rebelling can be crucial. When you think you're being judged. Do something that makes you judged and then see what happens. Keep doing it and you'll see that whatever target in your minds eye that is judging you slowly loses it's power when you continue to throw shade at the assumption that you NEED to be a victim in the process. A victim freezes. A strong person sculpts the situation to his/her benefit and so do that - sculpt the situation. Don't be afraid to get creative. When you think something is wrong with you, make sure to truly have something wrong with you in the context of the situation in order to really pry open the narrative in your head. See what happens then. Do the worst possible thing. Wave your hands in a long queue. Speak a foreign language to someone behind you, or make up your own. Start making cat noises. Try and get everybody to do a Mexican wave. The narrative in your head suddenly starts to lose it's power and now it's just noise. And noise is really all it should be considered to be because otherwise and if you choose to believe everything in your mind, you are opening yourself up to becoming a slave to every single thing your mind produces and we all know our minds can produce some dark and f*cked up sh*t. Make art of that darkness. Put a beard and a cowboy hat on the skeleton your mind draws. Dance with the devil when he is summoned.

Find out what happens when you say something the group doesn't want to hear. See whether the Earth freezes over. Whether your life ends right now. Whether you can cope with having contrasting opinions to someone else. Find out what happens when you put on a fake accent on the subway when someone talks to you. On one side of the coin you are anxious and don't want to be judged less you dissolve into your chair, and on the other you are making a parody out of the situation by pretending to be Fred the Flintstone or Peter Griffin. You are learning that it's not the end of the world. The person you are speaking to you probably won't ever see again. And it's not a life or death situation. You're not asking for his/her approval in marrying their daughter. You are on a subway and you got anxious and so you turned that anxiety into comedy while also realizing you can take control of the situation and turn it around.

Panic is similar. The only thing with panic is, your body tends to REALLY think it's the end. The best thing to do here is to learn to sit through it. While your mind is telling you you are having a heart attack and you're finished. Sit with this and focus on your breathing. You'll find that, shit, I'm still here. And if I'm still here today then chances are, I will still be here everytime I have a panic attack. Breathing is really important with panic attacks because it overrides the panic attack. You can't be thinking about dying AND breathing at the same time. You can either be thinking about dying OR breathing. Meditation teaches this when you practice focusing on your breath when thoughts bubble to the surface and you realize that when you focus on your breath the thoughts can't persist because your attention is focused on breathing. The thoughts have no choice but to move along. Sure, they keep cropping up but they always will. You focus on your breath and those thoughts come and go.
 
What I'm about to say will probably sound ridiculous but I'll go ahead and throw it out there...

But it helps me to take an Aspirin during a panic attack. I tell myself that I couldn't possibly have a heart attack with aspirin in my system! I know that's silly but it does help comfort me
This reminded me of something I forgot

Tylenol helps anxiety it blunts emotions my shrink told me to take a Tylenol when I was pregnant and wouldn’t take a Xanax even thought he told me one would be fine but I know how my mind works it wouldn’t have been fine it would have been more fuel for the bone fire of fear and anxiety that always was burning at that point in my life. Xanax can cause cleft palate I learned that in school and if I took one omg that’s all I would think about back then my mind was uncontrollable

I got control through meditation
breathwork
yoga

these things stimulate your vagus nerve which decreases your overall anxiety and lessons panic attacks or stops them completely
i no longer get them
I dont have superstition saying that as I used to thinking uttering those words would bring them back because they are gone because I changed my body through hard work

breathwork is the most powerful thing it even stimulates dmt in the body and you can feel like you are tripping
breath of fire, kundalini yoga will change your life and your bodies overstimulated hyper vigilant state that is causing the anxiety and panic attacks
 
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