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Potency isn't all. There are some really amazing pyrazolam/pyrazepam homologues. If the pendant aromatic is a 2-pyridine, it's possible to introduce selective activity including making examples that are potent serotonin releasers.
 
Yeah - it was unexpected. My wife, my son and myself all took 10mg and we were off out faces. It's the closest to methaqualone we had tried. Of course, we were very careful with methaqualone because too much causes seizures. We got the freebase so we could smoke it ;-) which is IMPRESIVE. But since nobody has fully elucidated the action of methaqualone, it's a bit dubious.

I'm a big fan of clomethiazole (Heminevrin). It's very nice, but drink one or two beers on top of it and it's lethal.
 
I've always wanted to try methaqualone. Seems like the analogues just don't compare. Though I haven't tried etaqualone, I went through a few grams of mebroqualone, and haven't been willing to touch methylmethaqualone as I hear the seizure risk is very high... very narrow therapeutic index.
 
Yeah - it's a VERY specific compound. One can swap the o-Me for an o-NO2 and the 2-methyl for a 2-fluoromethyl.... that seems to be the most potent analogue, but who knows if it's subjectively the aame.

When a drug is only active at the 100s of MG range, one knows it has low affinity and so it's generally more toxic. The strongest analogues MAY be x5-x20 more potent. As for TI.... who knows.
 
Feretile said:
Yeah - it was unexpected. My wife, my son and myself all took 10mg and we were off out faces. It's the closest to methaqualone we had tried. Of course, we were very careful with methaqualone because too much causes seizures. We got the freebase so we could smoke it ;-) which is IMPRESIVE. But since nobody has fully elucidated the action of methaqualone, it's a bit dubious.

I'm a big fan of clomethiazole (Heminevrin). It's very nice, but drink one or two beers on top of it and it's lethal.
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You tried all the drug's that have gained a legendary status.


I only smoked etaqualone and it was very euphoric.
 
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They could be bunk, RC market's aren't like in the UK day’s
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Bummer I guess that happens. As soon as I saw the word bunk my stomach dropped. But at least you’re able to access some real ones at times too. And then again you mentioned it could be tolerance, it could be maddening trying to figure out which one it is I bet.
 
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The only thing to reach the RC market that matched methaqualone was methylmethaqualone - the two are identical. If one removes the aromatic amine from alfoqualone, that should be BETTER than methaqualone... or 5 times as potent, at least. Swapping the 2-Me for a 2-NO2 also increases the potency by a factor of 5 but it's not possible to say if those 2 modifications add, subtract, multiply, divide or just ALTER activity.

At the end of the day, even if it's x10 more potent than methaqualone AND good, it's still going to need 60mg.

If you can build one compound that is subjectively the same, much safer and costs a lot less per unit.... why make it?
 
JackARoe said:
Bummer I guess that happens. As soon as I saw the word bunk my stomach dropped. But at least you’re able to access some real ones at times too. And then again you mentioned it could be tolerance, it could be maddening trying to figure out which one it is I bet.
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They are legit.

But the order before that different vendor. 3-FA instead of 2-FA and Flunitrazolam instead of Flu-Etizolam. And 20 instead of 25 pellet's. Last time I bought anything there.

Wonder why they didn't do a blanket ban. And where ALD-52 went.
 
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The only thing to reach the RC market that matched methaqualone was methylmethaqualone - the two are identical. If one removes the aromatic amine from alfoqualone, that should be BETTER than methaqualone... or 5 times as potent, at least. Swapping the 2-Me for a 2-NO2 also increases the potency by a factor of 5 but it's not possible to say if those 2 modifications add, subtract, multiply, divide or just ALTER activity.

At the end of the day, even if it's x10 more potent than methaqualone AND good, it's still going to need 60mg.

If you can build one compound that is subjectively the same, much safer and costs a lot less per unit.... why make it?
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All the reports I have read indicate that it has a very narrow therapeutic index, with seizures reported in a number of reports at only somewhat higher than the active recreational dose. Though it could be people were just being reckless.

I actually could order MMQ today, and have to admit I have been tempted, due to my really wanting to try methaqualone.
 
fugme said:
Thankfully i still have shitloads of etizolam, but i want to make sure this incident never happens again. They really fucked us over on this one. From now on i plan to purchase larger amounts and use double vacuum sealing with both silica packets and oxygen absorbents, making sure i'm independent as possible in the future. This way they should last me for decades, if i'm not mistaken.

- 1st has fluclotiozlam been discontinued? I really like this one for sleep, because of its very short duration <6h

- 2nd i would like to have a benzo with HYPNOTIC effects and duration similar to etizolam - that is ~7h.

- 3rd since my favorite recreational benzo, clonazolam has been banned, are there similarly euphoric options? i'm not too worried about half life as long as i can contain it to the weekend, i just want it to be as good or even better than clonazolam.

thank you all!
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Etizolam is supposed to have a 5 year shelf life but ime drugs don't really go off and any loss of effects tend to be more placebo.

1. Fluclotizolam I believe is still available.
2. Try bromazolam.
3. You'll have to try each of the rc benzos out since reactions vary from individual to individual.
 
Xorkoth said:
All the reports I have read indicate that it has a very narrow therapeutic index, with seizures reported in a number of reports at only somewhat higher than the active recreational dose. Though it could be people were just being reckless.

I actually could order MMQ today, and have to admit I have been tempted, due to my really wanting to try methaqualone.
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Would that be methaqualone? The analogue I draw has not, to my knowledge, ever been marketed due the somewhat complex chemistry. After all, at least 1 precursor would have to be synthesized and it's not an easy one to make.
 
Feretile said:
Would that be methaqualone? The analogue I draw has not, to my knowledge, ever been marketed due the somewhat complex chemistry. After all, at least 1 precursor would have to be synthesized and it's not an easy one to make.
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I meant methylmethaqualone. It has been available for many years off and on, with many people trying it, and quite a few reports of seizures or near-seizures.
 
Feretile said:
Yeah - it was unexpected. My wife, my son and myself all took 10mg and we were off out faces. It's the closest to methaqualone we had tried. Of course, we were very careful with methaqualone because too much causes seizures. We got the freebase so we could smoke it ;-)
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Now that's what I call a tight knit family, a family that smokes methaqualone together stays together 👨‍👩‍👦

I had a very bad experience however smoking etaqualone, one minute i was smoking it, next thing i know it's six days later and I wake up intubated in an ICU. I had a good amount of benzos in my system but my benzo tolerance was very high so i really didn't anticipate a problem. But there was a problem apparently.
 
fugme said:
Thankfully i still have shitloads of etizolam, but i want to make sure this incident never happens again. They really fucked us over on this one. From now on i plan to purchase larger amounts and use double vacuum sealing with both silica packets and oxygen absorbents, making sure i'm independent as possible in the future. This way they should last me for decades, if i'm not mistaken.

- 1st has fluclotiozlam been discontinued? I really like this one for sleep, because of its very short duration <6h

- 2nd i would like to have a benzo with HYPNOTIC effects and duration similar to etizolam - that is ~7h.

- 3rd since my favorite recreational benzo, clonazolam has been banned, are there similarly euphoric options? i'm not too worried about half life as long as i can contain it to the weekend, i just want it to be as good or even better than clonazolam.

thank you all!
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So I've had the privilege of trying 3-Hydroxy-Phenazepam and I gotta sat that 3mg of that provides the most natural sleep I've ever had and it seems to a very very noticeable afterglow afterglow after tye initial sedation wears off that I've only ever experienced after MXE or aMT....
From my subjective experience it's the greatest benzo I've ever tried by far!
 
Haven't tried 3-HO-phenazepam, but my experience with regular phenazepam was not great... I dosed methylone, redosed once, and then eyeballed (so dumb) what I assumed was 1mg of phenazepam... next thing I know it was 3 days later, my entire 3 grams of methylone was gone as was my 1 gram of 4-MMC, and the whole 100mg bag of phenazepam was missing...never found it, no idea how much I took, no idea what happened those 3 days. My ex-wife (wife still at that time) told me I was being weird.
 
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