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Using Codeine Linctus

Forever Changes said:
yeah I figure 20mg isn't very much, and I guess there's no way to extract the morphine. I probably shouldn't have bought it but I just happened to see it on the chemists' shelf :\

I'm going to try to find the Gee's linctus, but otherwise I'll take your advice and abandon OTC meds and research into poppy pod tea instead
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From what someone was saying before, there is up to 180mg of morphine in poppy pod tea...(I've no idea if that's true or not as I've never done it or pookied into it)....still, much hetter rhsn 20mg and not nearly as badbfor you as drinking whole bottles of Collis Brown
 
Backfromthebrink said:
As I said before, every junkie under the sun has had the idea of this "OTC morphine" but its OTC for a reason...if it were feasable to go round 5 chemists and get 100mg oral morphine by getting 5 of these and just drink it with no I'll effects, it wouldn't be OTC...
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Bang on the money BFTB! CWEs are probably the best OTC buzz you can get these days. I've never tried DXM though, but it sounds a bit nasty tbh...
 
I think any alcohol replacement(cannabis excepted) will do as much if not more damage than alcohol. Shane Mc Gowan once said I don't drink too much I just drink enough, I think the enough level is harder to maintain with benzos/opiates.
 
gannetsarewe said:
I think any alcohol replacement(cannabis excepted) will do as much if not more damage than alcohol. Shane Mc Gowan once said I don't drink too much I just drink enough, I think the enough level is harder to maintain with benzos/opiates.
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I was perfectly happy with kratom. Safe, pleasant, natural.:(

I've accepted that I need a crutch in my life - that's just part of who I am. But I'm never going back to the drink, no matter how much TPTB dangle it in front of me and rob us of any alternatives
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Bang on the money BFTB! CWEs are probably the best OTC buzz you can get these days. I've never tried DXM though, but it sounds a bit nasty tbh...
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Exactly mate....depending where you buy your co-codamol, you can get over half a gram of codeine extracted with little difficulty and no chemicals needed.for about 3-4 quid.

I've never tried DXM either....it's meant to help with opiate withdrawls but all the reports I've read about the yanks "Robotrippin" on cough syrup sounds lke it wouldn't be my cup of tea whatsoever.


One a completely different subject, I'm not supposed to get paid until 31st Jan (last Wednesday in the month) but cos we got paid early at Xmas, that would have made it a 6 week month...I was lamenting on Facebook that my bank account only had pence in it when a colleague said "WTF are you on in about? We got paid yesterday" so I tap the app on my phone and the balance jumped from 34p to a nice health 3 figure amount.....I was like a dog with 2 cocks :)
 
Forever Changes said:
^BFTB, any idea if Glutethimide is OTC or prescrip only?
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Yes it is...(prescription only)

Very unlikely it would make a difference even if it wasn't. I still don't think that is your problem though....

I think you either aren't taking enough codeine or maybe have unrealistic expectations of what a codeine buzz actuall is. Don't get me wrong, if you're opiate nieve and take the right amount it's OK.....but it's not like oxy, morphine, heroin, or any of the big hitters....

When sonething is OTC, the first thing you need to ask yourself is why?Gaenuine experts have examined it's abuse potential and determined that potential abuse is low enough to make it readily available..
 
^ I don't think I'm underdosing. I took 300mg last night and felt nothing. But I did take an antihistamine first which probably wasn't a good idea since I believe they are enzyme-inhibitors
 
blondin said:
I remember drinking bout 1/3 lr of kaolin and morphine - just the clear stuff at the top and it was like tripping -amazing buzz lasted hours if anything like opium.
I have a box of 30/500 never been arsed to cwe as always score gear but if i did an extraction what would the equivilent of .5 of gear at @50% pure.
Hi to any of you ol buggers who remember me.....blondins still in the urban dictionary lol
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Hello you! ^.^
Tis good to hear from you man :)
Hope yer well.

Oh and OP: Co-codamol + CWE = Better than what little you can squeeze out of Kaolin & Morpine (also it would require you tying the bottle to some strong twine and using the laws of spinny-physics ;)
 
blondin said:
I have a box of 30/500 never been arsed to cwe as always score gear but if i did an extraction what would the equivilent of .5 of gear at @50% pure.
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Not sure if anyone has answered this, but assuming you're talking about 28 tablets of 30/500 then that is 840mg codeine..Assuming you do a decent extraction (which is piss easy) you should get about 95% of that out...so round that to 800.

60mg codeine phosphate is equivalent to 10mg oral morphine...so your 800mg codeine is about equivalent to 130mg oral morphine roughly.

So however much gear you think is equivalent to that...

In reality it's not quite that simple since the equivalence tables are for analgesic equivalence not "getting mashed" equivalence...but its all you can go on really.

Obviously I'm sure you already know that it wouldn't be wise to take 800mg codeine without an antihistamine if you dont take codeine regularly...or it could get a bit nasty. I've only once had a bad histamine reaction with codeine and it was fucking awful...I literally took a fork and scratched myself until my skin was bleeding...(through the fork away afterwards BTW :))


monstanoodle said:
(also it would require you tying the bottle to some strong twine and using the laws of spinny-physics ;)
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Haha!! A centrifuge...that's brilliant actually...better than letting the bottl sit for days on end to separate....would have never thought of that.

Although as everyone has said ...a CWE on some co-codamol is the way to go....absolutely zero point in forking out a fortune for a bottle of kaolin and morphine in the hope of being able to extract a poultry 18mg (IIRC) of morphine....Assuming you even managed to isolate and extract all of it...I'm not even convinced that all of it would be in the watery layer...unless you completely got all the moisture out of the clay, it would still have some liquid and thus morphine trapped in it.....total waste of time, money and effort for (at very best) a tiny reward.
 
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look what I found:

Care ipecacuanha & morphine mixture 200ml

what is 'ipecacuanha'?. Might be more palatable than the J Collis Brown...?


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Forever Changes said:
look what I found:

Care ipecacuanha & morphine mixture 200ml

what is 'ipecacuanha'?. Might be more palatable than the J Collis Brown...?


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It's a VERY powerful emetic....makes you throw up violently in large doses and is an expectorant (relieves coughs) in small doses..

You ever seen that family guy episide where they drink that stuff and all throw up? Well that's ipecacuanha...drinks bottle or 2 of this and see what happens lol

Do you never just Google things? Could have found that out in about 5 seconds....not having a go or anything but if you were able to locate the product, then you could have googled ipecacuanha quicker than typing your post...

Seriously mate...forget OTC morphine....as I've said manyv times it's OTC for a reason...ie.they mix it with shit that negates the chance that people can abuse it by drinking shitloads
 
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That stuff is literally designed not to stay down. The morphine slows everything down in your intestines (which is why it's good for diarrhoea) and the Ipecacuanha irritates your stomach. The combined net effect is for it all to come back out the same way it went in, with considerable force behind it -- i.e., a long-distance barf!

I'm not even convinced that such a drug would be terribly useful generally. Most people's bodies can already detect reliably whether something is doing enough harm to be better off sicked up than allowed to continue on its journey arsewards, because that was a useful survival trait amongst our prehistoric ancestors. (Side note: Is it true that horses never puke?)
 
BecomingJulie said:
That stuff is literally designed not to stay down. The morphine slows everything down in your intestines (which is why it's good for diarrhoea) and the Ipecacuanha irritates your stomach. The combined net effect is for it all to come back out the same way it went in, with considerable force behind it -- i.e., a long-distance barf!

I'm not even convinced that such a drug would be terribly useful generally. Most people's bodies can already detect reliably whether something is doing enough harm to be better off sicked up than allowed to continue on its journey arsewards, because that was a useful survival trait amongst our prehistoric ancestors. (Side note: Is it true that horses never puke?)
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True but low doses of Ipecacuanha are an expectorant and shouldn't make you throw up...

Obviously if it did make you barf at the recommended doseage on the bottle the product would be useless...

Drinking the whole bottle of this in the hope of getting a morphine buzz would indeed end up like that famous scene from family guy where they all drink a bottle of Ipecacuanha and see who can last the longest without throwing up...

Pretty funny actually...:)

OP - seriously mate...if you can't get a CWE to work then give up.. you aren't gonna find any OTC morphine worth taking...


As a side note ..when they give people the massive barbiturates overdose at dignitas they have to give them a powerful dose of an anti-emetic first for the exact reason you state about the body knowing whem something is poisonous..

As for the horses thing.....no clue
 
Backfromthebrink said:
True but low doses of Ipecacuanha are an expectorant and shouldn't make you throw up...
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Hmm ..... literally something that gets something off (ex) your chest (pectoris)?

Now that'd be kind of fun at a sort of intermediate dose, where you wouldn't be sure if or not you were going to follow through .....
 
Backfromthebrink said:
OP - seriously mate...if you can't get a CWE to work then give up.. you aren't gonna find any OTC morphine worth taking...
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yeah I know. I'm going to try one last go with codeine

if still no resuts are had, I'll abandoned OTC altogether
 
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Forever Changes said:
yeah I know. I'm going to try one last go with codeine

if still no resuts are had, I'll abandoned OTC altogether
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Have you tried dihydrocodeine? The enzyme issues (assuming that they are the problem) shouldn't apply and panadol or co-drydamol are OTC but quite a bit more expensive..

OTC codeine/dihydrocodeine and paracetamol products are the only way you're actually going to get an OTC opiate buzz though....all the OTC morphine products are a total non starter for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
 
BecomingJulie said:
Hmm ..... literally something that gets something off (ex) your chest (pectoris)?

Now that'd be kind of fun at a sort of intermediate dose, where you wouldn't be sure if or not you were going to follow through .....
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The real oddity is why have an expectorant and an anti-tissutive in the same product.. as well as something that will make you violently vomit at above a certain doseage...

Seems an odd one.
 
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