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I took LSD the other day and I can't believe the things it showed to me

Not sure what it showed you but yeah there are some very interesting insights that can become available with psychedelics. What did you learn?
 
Yes, absolutely. More than anything else, I've been really amazed by the ability of LSD to demonstrate the basic principles of Eastern philosophies like Buddhism, when I had trouble understanding through books alone.

Please do share what you've learned!
 
I have had more of the L than any other psychedelic, it never ceases to amaze me!
I find it shows you who you really are, plus brings out an inner creativity that as an artist, i find to be extremely useful.
I remember i wrote something down when i was having a solo trip in my house not too long ago,
It went along the lines of "lsd gives us the opportunity to break the barriers of normal thinking and leave us open go information that is abstract to our usual state"

There was more but i cant remember it i'de have to find the book. But anyway please share what you learnt, its an amazing experience! :)
 
Can you elaborate on the things it showed you?

Personally it made me realize, or at least I came to that conclusion, that everything is an illusion, that there's absolutely no reason for me to get up in the morning and proceed with my life as usual, it's not real, everything is just a figment of my imagination, everything in this world is created in my mind only, and at the same time created in the minds of others.

So my consciousness is divided over every single life form that exists, unaware of it's connectedness, like a person suffering from multiple personality disorder, unaware of it's connectedness with his other personalities.

I am you, and you are me at the same time, there's no distinction, I'm not having a conversation with you, I'm typing this to myself.

Every single thing in the universe is a ripple from one core intelligence (God as you will), divided over billions, yet unaware of the oneness of everything.

It took me a very long time to process that and go on with my life, I mean, it doesn't make sense in regular reality, but at the time I realized it, I KNEW it was the ultimate truth, I could feel it, I finally came back to what I already knew, that it's all illusion, and everything is truly one.

I'm definitely not the only one to come to these conclusions, so if that's more or less what's happened to you, then yeah, it's "normal". :D
 
BlueMerlin said:
Can you elaborate on the things it showed you?

Personally it made me realize, or at least I came to that conclusion, that everything is an illusion, that there's absolutely no reason for me to get up in the morning and proceed with my life as usual, it's not real, everything is just a figment of my imagination, everything in this world is created in my mind only, and at the same time created in the minds of others.

So my consciousness is divided over every single life form that exists, unaware of it's connectedness, like a person suffering from multiple personality disorder, unaware of it's connectedness with his other personalities.

I am you, and you are me at the same time, there's no distinction, I'm not having a conversation with you, I'm typing this to myself.

Every single thing in the universe is a ripple from one core intelligence (God as you will), divided over billions, yet unaware of the oneness of everything.

It took me a very long time to process that and go on with my life, I mean, it doesn't make sense in regular reality, but at the time I realized it, I KNEW it was the ultimate truth, I could feel it, I finally came back to what I already knew, that it's all illusion, and everything is truly one.

I'm definitely not the only one to come to these conclusions, so if that's more or less what's happened to you, then yeah, it's "normal". :D
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I've had this insight too. I didn't find it hard to move back into 'real life' as I always felt it was a bit 'off' for want of a better word but the psychedelics let me feel and understand it.
 
You're not the only one, I've explained this the past 9 years or so to a lot of people, and I was surprised at how many people came to the same realizations, although, if they really are true then it shouldn't come as a surprise at all. :)

It was new to me, but since then I often feel like there are glitches in the matrix or something, things that I never noticed before, sometimes something very strange happens and not long after you realize "wait a minute, this doesn't make sense at all".Really like an error in reality.

Can't think of a good example at the moment, but if you've experienced the same thing you'll know what I mean, my wife also has this on occasion.
 
BlueMerlin said:
Can you elaborate on the things it showed you?

Personally it made me realize, or at least I came to that conclusion, that everything is an illusion, that there's absolutely no reason for me to get up in the morning and proceed with my life as usual, it's not real, everything is just a figment of my imagination, everything in this world is created in my mind only, and at the same time created in the minds of others.

So my consciousness is divided over every single life form that exists, unaware of it's connectedness, like a person suffering from multiple personality disorder, unaware of it's connectedness with his other personalities.

I am you, and you are me at the same time, there's no distinction, I'm not having a conversation with you, I'm typing this to myself.

Every single thing in the universe is a ripple from one core intelligence (God as you will), divided over billions, yet unaware of the oneness of everything.

It took me a very long time to process that and go on with my life, I mean, it doesn't make sense in regular reality, but at the time I realized it, I KNEW it was the ultimate truth, I could feel it, I finally came back to what I already knew, that it's all illusion, and everything is truly one.

I'm definitely not the only one to come to these conclusions, so if that's more or less what's happened to you, then yeah, it's "normal". :D
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Yeah it was like this.
 
Yeah, that's definitely not one of the easier things to experience, after 9 years it still affects my life, I'm still convinced everything is an illusion, but there's a lot of plot holes, or at least parts that need more explanation, on the other hand, I'm also convinced that we as humans, can and should not know why we are here, what we truly are and what reality is, it would make life and especially all the routines we put ourselves through every day, completely obsolete and useless.

We're not supposed to know what reality is, or understand it.

I hope you're ok though.
 
I had that realization 15 years ago. For a while it was difficult for me, although it was also always beautiful and amazing, but by now I am entirely comfortable with it. I mean, life is an illusion, but functionally, it's not. We're supposed to be experiencing this illusion right now as we are, so I try to embrace that. The realization of what we really are/what this really is helps me to have perspective when things get tough, but I still feel very involved in my life, I have people I love, things I love doing, etc. Whether I realize subjectivity is an illusion or not, I still wake up every morning as the same person and what I do and what happens affects me later. So it's still real.
 
I haven't had a spiritual experience on LSD either, although I only first tripped on LSD after I had already tripped a lot. My first trip, which was the one I had the realization described above on, was on mushrooms. I also have had that experience of awakening from subjectivity into the universal consciousness on synthetic 4-HO-DMT and 2C-E.
 
BlueMerlin said:
Can you elaborate on the things it showed you?

Personally it made me realize, or at least I came to that conclusion, that everything is an illusion, that there's absolutely no reason for me to get up in the morning and proceed with my life as usual, it's not real, everything is just a figment of my imagination, everything in this world is created in my mind only, and at the same time created in the minds of others.

So my consciousness is divided over every single life form that exists, unaware of it's connectedness, like a person suffering from multiple personality disorder, unaware of it's connectedness with his other personalities.

I am you, and you are me at the same time, there's no distinction, I'm not having a conversation with you, I'm typing this to myself.

Every single thing in the universe is a ripple from one core intelligence (God as you will), divided over billions, yet unaware of the oneness of everything.

It took me a very long time to process that and go on with my life, I mean, it doesn't make sense in regular reality, but at the time I realized it, I KNEW it was the ultimate truth, I could feel it, I finally came back to what I already knew, that it's all illusion, and everything is truly one.

I'm definitely not the only one to come to these conclusions, so if that's more or less what's happened to you, then yeah, it's "normal". :D
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This post condense a lot of "hidden"/esoteric knowledge from tons of traditions, gnostic, buddhist, mysticals. Personally I think is quite close to the ultimate truth, and being conscient of the conexion between we all is kind of the key of it.

Probably we will need a lot of lifes to grasp the concept in all his magnificence/meaning, but taking that glympses are like a confirmation of been oriented in the right path

I have to love my bluelighters. Thanks for remember us it

Edit: Tom Minderle, aka Montalk, has a website dedicated to explore and explain all this and things related. Personally is the most significant readings of my life. You can take a walk and read something that calls your attention. His writing style/lucidity is from another world:

montalk.net
 
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Img_9999 said:
If nothing is real, then what defines unreality ?
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Our thoughts define everything. We create the order out of chaos. We filter out lots of information and only perceive a tiny fraction of 'reality'.


Think of an atom and all the space in it yet we perceive the universe as solid! Our senses are not to be trusted on this.


@ Hexagon Sun- IF and its a big IF we need numerous lives to grasp the meaning of life then why do we not remember our past lives? Surely if we are here to learn via reincarnation the whole thing is pointless as we generally cannot remember so therefore we cannot learn.
 
LSD-Magic said:
LSD I found to be entertaining but not spiritual myself.
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I find that if I take LSD with friends it is only entertaining and has very little spiritual side, it is just a wonderful substance to use and have a brilliant time laughing and listening to music with some friends. However, if I trip alone I almost always have some sort of spiritual experience.
 
nuube said:
Our thoughts define everything. We create the order out of chaos. We filter out lots of information and only perceive a tiny fraction of 'reality'.
Think of an atom and all the space in it yet we perceive the universe as solid! Our senses are not to be trusted on this.
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I know, but but the fact that reality isn't accesible without intermediates, doesn't mean that is not accesible at all, or that "nothing is real". Of course we can't directly observe atoms, but indirectly we can know how they behave, and in their behavior we can imagine it's properties. Otherwise we wouldn't know that they are mostly void, like you said. The fact that reality seems solid to us has no relevance to the fact that matter is mostly void. We can understand that "experience" and "matter" are two different components of reality, because we relate to reality in some way. The fact that matter and experience are different instances of reality doesnt mean they are mutually exclusive, it's when they happen TOGETHER that reality emerges. It would be of no use to disregard everything as "unreal" just because we can't directly access reality and everything we know appears to us veiled through our senses and our rationality. Our experience of matter - and spirit - IS what makes reality happen, so instead of saying "ALL IS NOTHING, EXPERIENCE IS FLAWED SO THERE IS NO COMMON GROUND, THE ONLY TRUTH IS BEYOND THIS WORLD" i would rather take care of my own experience of this world and the way other people experience it, and do my best to build a meaningful world in THIS earth, that you call an illusion, that you call vacuity, that you call a deception of our senses and a lie.

If everything were an illusion, then why call it illusion? Concepts can only be defined by it's boundaries, that's why absolutes are impossible. For an objectivity to become "positive", it must be surrounded by it's own negation.
 
I've been searching for "enlightenment" from LSD, weed, mushrooms, DMT for 7 years and one recent insight I came to was "If a billionaire is a billionaire, and he still wants more, then I better be content with what I have now, because if I let my ego control me, I will never have enough." Now I wasn't tripping when I thought this but tripping definitely lead me to this type of thinking. Really helps me understand Buddha's teachings more. It's easy to say "be happy with what you got" but when you think of it that way, it really put it in perspective for me...let me tell you it's hard to be content with what you got and not want more, it's the living condition to want more as constantly evolving creatures, but with enough reflection and work on the ego, maybe you will find enlightenment...and I think enlightenment is a lifelong process, but I'm making strides. :)
 
Xorkoth said:
I had that realization 15 years ago. For a while it was difficult for me, although it was also always beautiful and amazing, but by now I am entirely comfortable with it. I mean, life is an illusion, but functionally, it's not. We're supposed to be experiencing this illusion right now as we are, so I try to embrace that. The realization of what we really are/what this really is helps me to have perspective when things get tough, but I still feel very involved in my life, I have people I love, things I love doing, etc. Whether I realize subjectivity is an illusion or not, I still wake up every morning as the same person and what I do and what happens affects me later. So it's still real.
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what happens if you keep tripping after this realization? what comes next?
 
Well, I went back to a similar place a few more times... actually 2C-E brought me beyond that into the void, the complete removal of subjective experience, which contributed to my overall view of things as well. I've had many realizations about myself and other people and the state of the world, and psychedelics continue to provide me with those sometimes. These days, I primarily use psychedelics as tools to enhance socializing with friends, nature outings, and live music/festivals, and also to play music and come up with new ideas (sometimes, especially on tryptamines, I get to this place where I feel like my hands are being guided while I play, and stuff comes out I haven't thought of before, and then I'm able to remember some of it and bring it back with me into my sober playing).
 
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