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Having trouble recovering a bad trip

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Frost2311

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Hey all, just wanted to share my bad trip and have some opinions and hearing what pepole has to say about my experience.

So about 8 months ago i was at a psychedelic party with family and friends. I took a tab from a friends which i split in half with my sister, half each.

About 1 hour after induce i started to feel the effects coming in but not so strong, a bit uncommfortable but managable, while my sisters trip already kicked in, with halucinations and euphoria and happines.

About 2 hours from induce, i realy started to feel the trip kick in, no halucinations but weird body sensations and emotions.

About 3-4 hours after induce,my sister wanted to take more acid, so i told her that she shouldnt and were tripping enough already, all of a sudden i felt a realy strong and weird feeling in my stomach. I was tripping so it was very hard trying to explain myself what realy happend with me...

I started to question that feeling i got and why i got it and what it was, digging deeper and deeper to those questions. At one point i told myself to stop paying so much attention to what happend, and i started to feel fine again for about 20 minutes, but yet again those thoughts about the feeling i got came back and it was realy hard to control these thoughts.

At one point i realy felt like my mind and body were taken over by the trip, causing me to think i have become insane and lost my mind, never coming back to myself.

I shared my sister with my feelings and she took me to a friend she knew, who could get me out of that what so called bad trip. So me and her friend started to walk out the party trying together to figure what is going on. We sat in his car and i felt like i wasnt me, i was actualy talking about me as a third person, saying things like ( lets suppose my name is Shady) "Shady dosent knows what he wants. Shady wants a ciggarette." I felt like i hadnt control of my thoughts, i asked this friend of my sister to pinch me, as i already lost connection with reality.

The realy worst time was when i was in the car, it was something like 2-3 hours , and it realy felt like it was 10 minutes.

So i startes to come down from the trip...

I was realy fine afterwards, smoking weed as i was before and feeling the same as i was before.

But about 3 months after that bad trip, feelings from the trip started to come back, they were realy intense when i was smoking weed so i stopped smoking... I had feelings from the trip even when sober...

So, like i said it has been 8 months since the bad trip, and i dont feel like i was before the bad trip, like im a completly different person, different thoughts, questoning emotions, questoning reality, some realy crazy shit...

thats about it, please share your thoughts and maybe could have a solution to my mental state, which i feel is realy unstable...
 
This is a common side effect of psychedelics, somehow feeling 'off' after an intense and uncomfortable trip. It started in your head and you'll have to finish it there, by that i mean the only person who can really fix this is gonna be you. Best way to figure this out is by listening to the needs of your body and mind. Meditate, exercise, eat well, read a book, and just generally engage the outside world. These activities will help keep you grounded. Also quiting smoking weed and psychedelics may help
 
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated my friend.

Well the thing is that i get through the day with lingering bad trip thoughts, sometimes i manage to distract, sometimes they get to me.

I read alot about anxiety disorders, ptsd, depression, all kinds of mental illneses, and i will always have symptoms from any kind of mental illness, which frightens me, have i developed a mental illness, or is it a self miscalculated diagnose? Im lost ...
 
hmmm. interesting story. Let me first start off by saying how LUCKY you are. There have been many reported cases of people taking "tabs" of LSD although...nowadays its not always LSD its synthetic Rc drugs such as NBome or some other 2ci derived drug...who knows what you took! and alot of people end up in the mental hospital FOR A LONG TIME. I know a girl who smoked weed once....turns out her biological mother had schizophrenia and bi-polar. she now has on going and severe mental health issues from smoking marijuana once. she obviously was pre-dispisitioned to these illness and the pot brought them to the surface. perhaps the "tab" (whatever the fuq it was) has set this off in you.

alot of these liquid compounds are un tested in any form..no clinical trials/tests except from people like me on websites like this.. its a gamble nowadays with the chinese flooding the market with new RC drugs that resemble LSD but with no clinical trials. ...even the US navy gave lsd to a cat and tested the cats response - true story.
So Your situation is complicated. You wont know what chemical you took until you took a sample and had it lab tested.

Annywho Let me explain as best i can as a seasoned drug experimenter.

Marijuana Poses 2 pyschological qualities. its PRO-psychotic and ANTI-psychotic. Healthy, normal marijuana plants have two sides to the coin, they induce psychotic like symptoms but counteract them with anti-psychotic symptoms. Its weird. There is HBO documentary i saw on Youtube once about a kid who used marijuana allllll day long to TREAT his paranoid schizophrenia with a near 100% success rate. it works because marijuana (for him) had a quality which his brain needed. So the fact that you had it "after your trip" could really complicate things. weed and pyschedelics in my experience are bad news. even if its 2 hours "after you feel the trip is over" or 2 hours before the trip. But i suppose its all relative to how much pot you consume and what strain.
I suggest stop the weed for a while, give your brain a break.

There have been plenty of cases of where an unfortunate soul has taken his first trip, be it mushrooms, LSD, unknown, etc. and it unlocks a part of the mind in that particular person and all hell breaks loose and psychosis sets and ur in a hospital for 2 years while doctors experiment trying to figure out which transistor you have blown up.

So now its been 8 months!

1. i highly recommend you go see a physiatrist as a PRIORITY. 8 months dude....jesus.
2. lay off anything mind altering including weed.
3. figure out what it was you had if possible. They may say "lsd maan its all good" however you wont know until you test it.
4. maybe ...and i say this with caution...try taking some essential amino acids such as L-tyrosine, L-tyrptophan. Tyrosine converts to dopamine, L-tyrptophan converts to serotonin (note!!!!!!! tryptophan is like injecting your brain with serotonin, no this doesnt mean its extasy....your brain will do what it feels it needs to do with it, as hallucinogens primary effect serotonin it may correct the situation? perhaps the drug you took damaged a receptor(s) these essential (must be obtained via diet) amino acids may correct you. These amino acids mentioned should be available at a natural health store or body bulding store place.

5. try exercise and supplements such as magnesium, vitamins etc. give your body everything you can and perhaps it will fix itself.


In conclusion - see a pysciatrist as number 1. they are good and asking you weird questions and figuring out what it could be. they may prescribe a anti pyscotic such as seroquel to try and restore normal function. who knows.

keep me posted. and try and give us a little more info. ie. other drugs you take, THE drug you took at the time etc.

dangles.
 
What you felt was ego death. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, you should talk to a therapist about it. I have talked to some about my bad trips.
 
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What you felt was ego death. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, you should talk to a therapist about it. I have talked to some about my bad trips.
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Demonstrate extreme caution in choosing therapist/psychologist. You shouldn't have faith in people only because of the title they have. The relationship between patient and therapist/psychologist is probably the most vulnerable relationship most patients could have. You shouldn't assume you're secure sharing your inner most thoughts with therapist/psychologists only because of the title they have. The same as other person, they could betray your trust.

In general sociopaths exist. The patients vulnerability attracts sociopathic people into the position of therapist/psychologist. You could share your deepest most sensitive thoughts then the therapist/psychologist could betray your confidentiality. Worse yet, they could intentionally harm you. This is the nature of sociopaths among us.

If you choose getting therapy only choose from therapist/psychologist your elders have recommended and personally used.
 
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I don't assume people are usually sociopaths looking to f me over, especially if they are licensed professionals. Most are there to help you.
 
You never mentioned what you took besides half a tab. Half a tab of what?
 
Can you share your previous psychedelic experience? What you described simply sounds like normal effects of tripping to me, that is what psychedelics do is dissociate you from your familiar identity and thought patterns. This can be very disconcerting and disorienting, especially to someone who is not in touch with their higher or spiritual self. It leaves one confused and with a sense of loss or directionlessness.
 
Thank you all for your replies, it means very much to me.

So first of all some of you guys adviced to meet with any kind of psych therapists, the thing is i do not believe in psychological medicaitons, nor seeing a therapist, unless the therapist is there to just talk and share and can help me out, but i dont think its neccesary.

So before that bad trip i used to be in love with weed and hash, seeing it as a way of life and using it very much frequently, like about 1 gram a day. I also had a very enlightning experience with LSD before, and it probably was the best experience of my life, a day i wouldnt forget.

As well, i very much looked forward to tripping again, and that time was when i had that bad trip , i didnt smoke or was drinking alcohol before induce, cause i realy wanted to know my self better on LSD.

I was very much connected to myself before that bad trip, knowing my willing and limits, so im pretty sure i have no underlying mental issues, maybe some traumas from the past, but non are related to drugs.

Nowdays i feel good, im working, playing soccer, im social active, all as i was before that trip, but after that trip those things are not the same, i feel a hole in me, like somethings missing...

Would realy love to hear more from you guys.
 
Oh I see. Now keep in mind I am no expert in these matters and the advice I give is potentially dangerous. That is because all I have to go on is my personal experience. I also have had that feeling of something missing in me following a bad trip. I have a few methods that I use to fix this sort of thing.

One method is to trip again. I know it sounds crazy but I read LSD psychothereapy by Stanislov Grof and he recommends tripping again as soon as possible after a bad trip, in order to work through the unresolved material that lead to the bad trip. Obviously he is talking about a therapist patient relationship so tripping by yourself is a lot more risky because you dont have the support of a guide. But it is one possibility.

Another way I have fixed myself from this situation is with amanita muscaria mushrooms. I had a horrendously awful trip earlier this summer and was left absolutely devastated feeling as though Id lost myself. It was on a high dose of mescaline plus weed. I was able to fix it in three days using amainita muscaria and performing a soul retrieval. The theory here is that truamatic experiences cause part of your soul to break off which is why you feel empty or a sense of loss inside. All you have to do is retrieve these lost parts and you feel better instantly. Amanita muscaria allowed me to expand my consciousness out of my body and go look around for the lost parts of my soul. You can do soul retrievals without amanita I just find amanita makes it so much easier, but also keep in mind I have a decent amount of experience with amanita and it has helped me heal from many of the negative effects of seretogenic psychedelics. So perhaps you should try this sober first and if it doesnt work, you could look into amanita. If youd like I can post some shamanic drumming videos which I use in conjunction with amanita specifically for healing work.
 
Hey burn out thanks for replying.

Well honestly, i realy did thought about tripping again, but those thoughts come only when im feeling the best of the day, but the matter is that a moment later i can feel very down. So im wondering, if this is what i feel when sober, what would realy happen if i trip again?

Also, im pretty sure that LSD realy is a good spiritual medicine( thats also was what Hoffman looked forward to creating that drug), even though its not for everyone, but i believe that my bad trip came from my unconciousness, something that was revealed to me, a feeling i always had, and the trip made that feeling 1000 times more intense, and i know that what triggered that bad trip was a feeling i had in myself, just not feeling that strong when sober.
 
LSD is a powerful spiritual medicine but powerful isn't necessarily the same thing as good. LSD can do wonders for your spirituality, but it can also seriously mess it up. There are many dangers of LSD and similar drugs that are simply not talked about on this forum but they are real.
 
I had similar experience. My advice is, after bad trip, try tripping again, as soon as possilbe. If your fears and anxiety come from bad trip, try to trip again, with better set and setting. I had a very bad experience 3 months ago, it was affecting my life (anxiety). I tried this again (LSD), then again, and everything backed to normal. I think every good experience on LSD can heal.
 
Hey goodluck.

That what i have, anxiety disorder and panic disorder, did realy a good trip fixed yours? Please tell me more
 
Its very possible to fix a bad trip with a good one, always has worked for me but its also risky i think, that is why i recommend doing a soul retrieval on aminita. but if yoiu are scared of aminita/dont know how to use it you might better off doing another LSD trip or maybe shrooms. Shrooms are smarter than LSD in my opinion, they have their own intelligence.
 
It is very regular to feel burned out or depressed after any trip, what I did was waited until it was total out of my system and recovered from the sleep deprivation the 300ug of LSD gave me. I also tried to explane to one of my friends what it was like, (even though you can't effectively explane a trip the outward expression helped me get over my new mind set...once it's out of your system I returned back to normal and even benefited a ton from my trip...you have to decode what your mind told you during the trip. Once you get a understanding of why you have felt those thoughts and why you saw what you saw while tripping, you will begin to benefit from the experience even if it seemed negative, there really is no bad trip because although it can be scary, it teaches you. It the experience in itself that's beneficial, hopefully you will be able to see it that way because psychadelics are truly beautiful!
 
I've read all your posts Frost. And it seems to me that with each post, you reveal something new about what you felt during and after the trip, which is a good thing. Just talking through things can really help. Just because you are opposed to taking medication doesn't mean you can't talk to a professional. Even if you don't want to speak with a doctor, talking with a close friend or family member can be very beneficial. The only other advice I can give is be healthy and active, which it sounds like your doing. Don't worry my friend, you will feel better soon.

Also, just curious, is English your first language?
 
Hey pibolar.

Nope english is not my first language, but i like that language very much so i gave it alot of attention in school, im watching alot of TV and also am a video gamer, so its easy for me to catch that language.i wonder why did ask me that question, would like a reply :).

So about that bad trip, lately ive been thinking about tripping again, even though im not mentally stable for that, because that bad trip triggered some mental problems in me. Im thinking to myself that if ive been through one bad trip , i believe i can stand one another, even if it will worsen my mental health, im just curious what went wrong in that bad trip.

Replies would be much appreciated :).
 
Hey man. The reason I asked is because as I read your report, you seemed to speak similarly to others I've met who are from different countries (I live in the US). It's not that your English is bad, it's perfectly understandable, you just seemed to speak as if it were a second language. Almost as if I could "read your accent", if that makes sense.

How have you been feeling? Any better? I hope so. If you're not feeling the best still, just remember that time is a great healer, and it helps to be healthy. Exercise can do wonders. You say your a video gamer, and that could be helpful. Immerse yourself in video games to get your mind off of things and relax. Though don't let it take over your life. :D
 
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