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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy βK-2C-B Thread - Part 1

Yeah to be honest I think I may just toss it.. don't want to take too much of something that should of been working very well at that dose.
 
Wouldn't IVing require diluting it in water? That would largely make it dimerize and become inactive, however I don't know much about IVing or the conditions that make it dimerize so maybe there are other solutions.
 
If you inject this and it dimerizes at the wrong place at the wrong time it could be dangerous... I would just.. not. Psychedelic phenethylamines are not really good to inject anyway I think. IMing 2C-C for example did not feel safe.
 
I guess it would be safe injecting a really small amount of chemical, but given bk-2C-B's notoriously high oral doses, I suppose IM/IV will not be in mg range...Don't feel like stuffing hefty amount of powder in my circulation, given how unstable it is in water solutions.
 
I would personally try to explore plugging with a solution containing a minimal amount of acid (say vinegar)...

you're right, forget about injecting this.

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As I mentioned in the EADD thread:
If acid really does revert it, and ROAs give different results and reactions vary in general... I would theorize that the best way to go is to take it orally on an empty stomach so that your stomach acid allows it to be absorbed in normal monomer form.

Also, I wonder if the N-hydroxy version (the hydroxylamine) would be superior in preventing dimerisation while still basically acting the same since it would be a pro-drug for bk-2C-B?
 
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I've had a gram of this sitting around for about half a year and I'm noticing that it's slowly developing an orange-red tinge to it on just one of the inner sides of the bag it's in. The colour change is only really happening in the center area of the bag, where there isn't much powder (all the powder is in the bottom of the bag) so I assume it's from moisture from the air that was trapped in the bag that's causing dimerisation. Just thought I'd share.
 
From what I can tell, this stuff seems to last much longer than regular 2c-b, correct?

I've had an interest in picking up some 2c-b for a while now, and I figured that this might be the next best thing. However, I'm already sitting on a lifetime supply of DOC and don't necessarily have an interest in another psychedelic phenethylamine that lasts all day.

Any thoughts?
 
^I have no experience with bk-2c-b, however I feel from what I've read here that if you want a psych that's similar to 2c-b and isn't gonna mess you up for the whole day, and is likely to actually work, you're better off trying other classic phens that are closer in nature to 2c-b.

The dose seems variable, not too mention relatively high for bk-2c-b compared to closer phens. Also, I believe it has been MORE unstable than 2c-b and other phens, not less so, and dimerizes when in contact with water. Something to consider.
 
bk-2c-b works. There are probably some vendors selling shitty batches for cheap. Given that this isn't a very potent compound.
But All in All, It's rather enjoyable, if a spacious material. You can tell it hasn't been visited very much yet. It is in no way like Mdma, or any of the Apb, apdb, series.
I find it's a lot like mescaline when you aren't thinking about it. But ultimately it's not a very spiritual compound. I woke up in the night having wicked hallucinations over 8 hours after i had ingested it.
Those visuals rivaled things i've seen on 2c-e in terms of intricacy and complexity. Saying it's Not spiritual doesn't mean there isn't room for some temporal//astrological weirdness.

It's good stuff. Its effects take a tremendously long time to grab you by the balls. I've done it 2 times now. I also don't know if it's because i used a gelatin capsule or what. But it takes awhile... saying it peaks in 2 hours is... kind of a lie... you feel something at 45 minutes. You notice it at 2 hours. You're high by the 4th hour. That i can definitely say with certainty.
90mg
then
160mg.

Oddly both doses felt about the same except i got visuals sooner with the 160 and didn't fall asleep from boredom.
There is something slightly "dark" about this compound. Not sinister, just uniquely dark. It's not as bright and sunny as LSD or 2c-b thats for sure.
It's almost more... "demonic" a la DOB. Just without the energy push.

Not a compound for the nunnery.
 
This one is great. Took 200 mg on Friday and it lasted for good 16 hours. Very slow comeup ultimately culminated in a great plato phase which was surprisingly visual and also intellectually entertaining. Spent the whole day hiking on the beach shore; no significant impairment of somatic functions - body feels fine, which I especially appreciate. There was some minor nausea, lazy bladder, and a bit of coughing, but nothing too distracting. bk-2C-B also seems to give me some energy which is welcome, unlike DOC that appears to sucks all glycogen out of my muscles so that every step is a challenge. The duration is a bitch though, but that's the integral part of this chemical.

Pretty good shelf like also, been storing that for 6 months at room temperature without observable drop in potency.
 
I've taken this twice now. I should note that these have been my only hallucinogenic experiences. Previous drug experiences have been with weed (almost daily), MDMA (maybe 10 times in the last 2 years), and cocaine (only once or twice). I must be extremely sensitive to BK-2C-B, based on other people's reports and dosages. Also, I'm a small guy (only 5'4" 120 lbs), so that probably affects things.

The first time I took 125mg with my bf about 3 hours after a light lunch, about 5:30pm. 2 hours later I was feeling nothing. We were sitting on the front porch having beers, and he's suddenly giggly and says that the tree across the street wants to come over and hug him. I get jealous and take another 60mgs, hoping to push myself over the threshold. This may have been a mistake. A half hour later, I go to the bathroom to pee. I look in the mirror over the sink and then turn to look in the mirror in the medicine cabinet. Something looks subtly different about my face in each mirror. This triggers a wave of tingles from head to toe. A couple of other friends show up and I offer them some BK-2C-B too, as the tingles are feeling amazing and I want to share the experience. I split what I have left for them, about 95mgs each. Shortly after this I get extremely nauseous and have to puke. It's oddly cathartic, not unpleasant. I see snake eyes looking up at me from the toilet bowl. This is the beginning of the visuals. Slowly, pulsing waves of colors wash over the walls and ceiling. My two friends didn't experience much, mostly stimulation and some psychedelic thought patterns, slight visual breathing. My bf and I lay on the living room floor and melt into the music that one of my two friends is playing, The World of Synthipop on vinyl. The music takes on an evil tone, but not in a scary way. I have to agree with Psychonautical that this substance is somewhat "dark." We have some antique African masks in the living room that looked very alive. In the bathroom with the light off, a tiny gargoyle peers up at me from the sink. There was also quite a lot of body load for me. My muscles were very tense and getting up to walk to the bathroom was difficult. It was like all my muscles were buzzing. At 3AM none of us is remotely close to coming down, but we all feel like we need to get to bed. My two friends take to the spare room and my bf and I head for the bedroom. I take 1mg etizolaam to facilitate sleep. As I close my eyes, I see pulsating patterning triangles that eventually morph into all sorts of amazing things. Most notably, poodles floating around gold stripper poles with a fluorescent pink background. I was able to fall asleep without too much trouble. I woke up around 6:30am briefly and was still tripping quite hard. Our knotty wood ceiling was alive with the faces of 50 or so people. I immediately decide I need to get back to sleep and close my eyes. Wasn't expecting to still be tripping so hard! I wake up for good around 10 and the visuals are gone, but my brain is fried. I had to go to brunch at noon to meet friends and had a lot of trouble eating. After a few drinks and a few hours, I was back to normal by 4 or 5.

The second time was while camping last weekend. This time I only took 120mg, yet I still tripped just as hard! My tent was like my own personal space ship. While peeing on a tree, several faces formed in the dark and looked up at me. Lights in the distance through the trees became baboons lurking in the woods. Oddly, nothing ever seemed frightening to me, just fascinating. Effects this time lasted around 14 hours.

Next time, I plan to try an even lower dose of around 80mg. I'd like to see if there is a dosage that is "partyable" for me. A dose that offers the euphoria/stimulatuon and some minor visuals without such a strong trip.
 
How safe is this chemical considered right now? Are there any known interactions with other substances?
 
It's pharmacology is unknown. It might be 2cb-like, but it might also interact with monoamine transporters, adrenergic receptors, etc....who knows?

ebola
 
Anyone comboed with mdma or 6-apb at all? Planning on doing it maybe this weekend or the one after

Think I might do maybe 100mg and then T3/4ish, just less then normal dose of either of those
 
This chemical is very entactogenic, but I would like to try this compound at a dosage close to 200mg, because it hasn't been very visual for me at dosages up to 150mg. For a first timer, I wouldn't recommend going over 120mg though.
The duration is around 12-16 hours, and it has a long come up, usually around 2 hours, even on an empty stomach.
 
Something New

Just posted a new trip report on this material and thought I'd cross-post a link here along with my summary for those who aren't interested in reading the whole thing ...

www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/731557-(BK-2C-B-115mg)-First-Trial-Something-New

BK-2C-B was a fun, relatively mild, long-lasting psychedelic at a dose of 115mg. Roughly 2-3 hours to come up, 4 more hours to peak, followed by a couple hours of plateau, and a long, gradual come down. Over 12 hours to baseline. Slightly more empathogenic than introspective. Has potential to be visually powerful, but not overwhelmingly so (at this dose). Possible risk of melancholy and dark imagery. Something like 80-100mg might be more appropriate for a party setting. Would take again if I had more. Next dose would probably be 150mg. Impression that there is a line to be crossed where one is propelled from ++ bordering on +++ to full-blown +++/++++. For reference, I missed out on the glory days of 2Cs so this is one of my first PEA trips. Other PEA experiences include several 25x-NBOMes, DOC, and "HOT-7" which turned out to be 2C-T-2. Of these, I find BK-2C-B to most closely resemble a longer acting, more gentle 2C-T-2 (tested at 15mg over 3 hours): visual but not in your face, relatively calm and mild state of mind with some slight emphasis on emotion.
 
Has anyone mixed bk-2c-b with 5-meo-mipt? I feel like they could be pretty good together at a reduced dose?
 
elegantloon said:
Has anyone mixed bk-2c-b with 5-meo-mipt? I feel like they could be pretty good together at a reduced dose?
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I have not tried this combination nor do I have any desire to do so, but it does make me wonder what kind of reaction one would get from concurrent dosing of a long lasting psychedelic with a delayed onset (like BK-2C-B or DOC) and a fast-acting psychedelic with a short duration (like 5-MeO-MiPT or 4-AcO-DMT). Personally, I would prefer a 4-substituted tryptamine for such an experiment.
 
not sure on the meo-dipt part, but i mixed it with allyescaline (in stupid doses though) and it was possibly the most fun I've ever had in a night, though completely unrelated, i feel bk-2c-b lacks something around 7-8 hours into it and I've normally taken doses of 200mg, it has that fun side to it to begin with but then it just gets a little disjointed, don't know what the word to describe it is really.. like you're left with a lot of residual stimulation and a little bit of the tingles you were having but they're dying down perhaps its just the come down...

i personally haven't had many visuals on the drug by itself, much more alike to MDMA in how it affected me, there was a hint of trippyness like faces melting etc... but nothing too interesting
 
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