Benzos (thienodiazepine) Etizolam Megathread V2

[black53]

Flunitrazepam is schedule 1 in the US so technically any analogue of it is illegal (which they could argue covers all benzo derivatives), whether the prosecution uses this as proof of it's illegality I don't know.

*Having skimmed the article it seems that it's another newspaper clueless about drugs, so really there's not a lot we know atm.

So basically - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPR9ORpwBEU

 

[En2Tuk]

The guy with the charge on him has pleaded not guilty.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

Anyway I want to say for those of you looking at etizolam for medical reaons I would say its a temporary last resort at best. Its safer\better\more effective than phenibut at least. Tolerance is the same as other benzos.

If you have real mental issue then see a fucking psyhiatrist. It's probably cheaper (unless your insurance sucks or you only need a few tabs a month) and they may be able to help you with some alternatives like Lyrica, therapy, etc. If you can't afford a doctor that's one thing.
I gotta say also I think etizolam wont catch on too much among your average drug user especially in the US. The average price of an Etizolam tablets could get me .5mg of klonopin on the street. We already got benzos in America (for now until they take more freedom!). But I could see this being helpful in the benzophobic UK...

This post should be read and obeyed. But really the powder is purer and cheaper, and if you volumetric dose all around better than the poorly produced in India hit or miss tablets. The temporary part in the first sentence should be read 100x.

 

[dopemegently]

This is just a personal opinion, but I'm avoiding phenibut like the fucking plague right now; i started using it around 6 months ago, and went from 3 grams a day to over 15 grams a day, which is an easy trap to fall into. I didn't get away with that kind of use; in fact I've been out of hospital for a few days- it gave me a kidney injury, and it one point I almost died. My kidneys couldn't get rid of the fluids I was drinking so they went to my lungs leading to pulmonary oedema and type 1 respiratory failure. I had to be intubated, and having a respirator down your throat is fucking horrible; it was like having a face hugger from the Alien movies clamped to my face. I needed dialysis, and my kidney functions are approaching normal levels now; I'm very, very lucky.

Just thought I'd throw that out there. I can't say for a fact it was the phenibut that caused this, as I was using quite a few other drugs, but phenibut was the one I really abused a lot, and I'm fairly sure it was that that did it.

But about etizolam: does anybody know if it's excreted renally?

 

[benzoman12345]

Etizolam is being sold as Valium all over Scotland EZ 1.0 stamped blues,

The W/Ds from Etiz are fucking horrible man because it's so fast acting, very addictive drug, it definitely is a legal Xanax.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

If you thought running out of weed is bad (which it really is hell for me to)....then wait till you get a little benzo habit going.

EDIT: My review of etiz was a bit harsh. I was just expecting something more potent is all. But I would probably say that if you gave me thorazine. Some people say its like 10 mg of diaz. More like 4 or 5 atleast in terms of impairment.

It feels most like ativan but with a much shorter duration. Very clear headed benzo targeting mainly anxiety. Good head buzz from the rapid onset. I think these would be great for panic attacks. I'm not so sure about the recreational potential but hey its a benzo.

Oh also apparently while almost but not blacked out on etizolam and booze I was apparently really fucked up. I can mix booze and benzos like a champ. So you've been warned. I won't do it again.

Hey man I completely agree, I'm heading down a dark path these days. It doesn't seem like it now, because I was so fucked out of my mind to begin with and now I am functioning just fine, but eventually I will screw myself over completely. I know this, but I see no other way. It's a last resort, I've tried anti-psychotics, ssri's, CBT, healthy eating, yoga, exercise (well I've always lived a healthy lifestyle apart from drug use), vitamin supplements... nothing fucking works. Before I started using benzos, whenever I had a panic attack I couldn't handle it because I get extremely severe ones, and I would chug 6 beers to calm myself down. This happened once or twice a day even though I was on that miserable seroquel and I was becoming an alcoholic and I haven't had a drink since I started on the benzos.

But I just have a question, what's your opinion on the xanax / etizolam equivalency? I use both, so it's hard to quantify how much I am using each day. It's usually 1mg xanax (which I find is more sedating and lasts longer) and 4mg of etizolam - which feels a little softer/weaker although really effective for panic attacks which is the main reason I am stuck in this bit of a rut. But does this really mean I'm using 5mg of xanax a day? I don't think I'd need that much. I was experiencing chronic panic attacks before I started using these drugs - like my whole entire life was literally a full blown panic attack 24/7. My heart couldn't take it anymore... I really fucked myself up. As little as one year ago, I didn't even know what a panic attack was. I have no idea how I could EVER stop using them because the panic attacks would come back worse than before. I was ready to off myself.

If it's really true that 1mg xanax is roughly equivalent to 2mg etizolam on average, that would be good news in my books because it's mainly etizolam that I use, but I always take 1mg doses.

I'm also slowly but surely picking up an oxycodone habit... I like to use a 5mg IR (orally of course, I'm new to opioids) every day now and if I skip a few days I get cravings, I even had dreams about them. It was really easy for me to pick up this habit because I was primed for it by my years of weed abuse, and I also suffer from chronic agony in my spine that has been ongoing for years. And earlier this year I sniffed little bumps of H 3 times a day, before I sort of realized what was going on and I stopped completely for a while, and I seem to be doing better with the oxy. It's all happening really fast though, like I just got fed up one day and picked up the opioids. So I'm just fucking fed up with suffering and I take benzos and low doses of opioids now. I just REALLY hope that 5mg pill doesn't turn into 10mg then into 20mg you know what I mean? But fuck, I have responsibilities and shit, a life to live and a job... I need to be able to function. I don't know what kind of doses oxy addicts with full blown withdrawals are taking, but isn't 5mg really low? I get strong effects from it, and I don't feel the need to take more than 1 a day but still. Ugh. I'm dependent on these fucking drugs and it all started when I became a huge pothead, after fiending dope all day every day for years and being forced to quit because it turned it's back on me, I'm just too mentally ill to be sober now. Now I can't smoke weed anymore because I get extreme panic attacks from it, so it just seems like I'm switching over to opioids. The brain was seeking an alternative, but actually I like opioids more and function better on them than with weed. Honestly, what the fuck happened to me... one day after smoking weed for 10 years I just started getting horrible panic attacks that never went away when I quit... my life was going downhill enough with the chronic pain before the extreme anxiety hit. I'm just confused... maybe I should be taking 30mg of oxy a day and no benzos at all if possible? If that would take the anxiety away, I think it would be safer than this benzo habit I'm picking up. The question is, can opioids be as effective for extreme anxiety and panic attacks as benzos? I'm desperate to self medicate so I'd definitely go for it, I don't like the idea of being on benzos long term.

But is 5mg of oxycodone a day, for someone suffering with chronic pain, isn't that like what someone would be prescribed? 2.5mg is really all I need, 5 is a little strong for me, probably due to benzo potentiation. I don't think it's a big deal unless I start taking more. But I think it's a big deal that I started using them to begin with and I have an addictive personality. And I really like them a lot, I wasn't into heroin too much because I knew it was cut full of junk. And I'm hypersensitive to things like caffeine now which I know they cut it with, I'm very untrusting of street drugs apart from a good oxy hookup. And dilaudid was too short lived and I hated how I had to sniff it to increase the bioavailability, but when I found oxycodone it was like a match made in heaven.

I'm just a little worried because I can't go back to the way I was before I took the way of the benzo. It was extreme agony beyond all description. I cannot handle, and will never be able to handle the severity of those godawful panic attacks. I would show up in the ER begging for mercy. And even if I didn't have any problems, I don't know if I could stop myself from using opioids at this point.

Fuck, it seems like once an addict, always an addict... I had a psychotic break from smoking way too much weed and ever since my life has been hell. But it wasn't just weed that led me here... I had a really severe sports injury a few years back, and that's what led me to smoke so much weed in the first place. But weed had anxiety as a side effect, and I was stressed to begin with because of the chronic pain... eventually one day I just snapped. And after suffering for nearly a year, I'm unwilling to let it go on any longer.

 

[benzoman12345]

Etizolam is like a more sedating Xanax, Xanax has anti-depressant energetic properties for me anyway,

In all honesty they are both fuckin good if you have anxiety , anything than is a benzo or a benzo derivative or a Gaba-eric is good for me.

On a mg/mg basis Xanax is more potent.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

It's the opposite for me:

xanax is more stoning / sedating, I notice a little short term memory loss... whereas etizolam is strictly anxiety relief, with mild antidepressant energetic properties.

This might just be the way that I dose them... I take 1mg of either one when needed. The xanax is definitely more potent, without a doubt. I would estimate that I have the equivalent of a 4 mg / day xanax habit, and I've been at it for 4 months, so it's pretty serious.

They are both fucking amazing for extreme anxiety, until you try and stop that is. I don't intend on doing that any time soon haha, I was getting ROCKED by panic attacks around the clock, showing up at the ER begging for mercy and all that... I can't go back to that miserable state of torture, and I couldn't even handle it before I knew what a benzo was, I'd just chug a 6 pack back then which is unaffordable and too hard on my liver and it barely worked, I was hardly functional self medicating with alcohol. And it was uncontrollable - if I didn't have a benzo on hand, I'd be reaching for the bottle. That's for sure. And I haven't had a drink in many months now, which is really good for me. Plus I have a career path and need to be able to function without the crippling never-ending panic attacks.

My main concern is that the benzos will stop working so well.

 

[En2Tuk]

The withdrawal you get from Etizolam is massively underplayed by some. It seems worse depending on your anxiety condition. Really bad anxiety = really bad withdrawal.

I tried cold turkey once as a test...suffice to say i didn't last long, awful it was. At one by I was in a state of being half-awake and half asleep...a bird flew near my flat window...the window was open but I thought the bird had flew in and started to panic.

And if it's being sold in Scotland as Valium (which doesn't surprise me at all) it won't be long before it banned and we'll all find out what the withdrawal is like.

Taper , taper, taper.

 

[dstr8427]

So, sorry guys, I don't have the time, and I honestly don't feel like, sifting through 38 pages of posts. So if you don't mind me asking, which do you guys prefer? Consern or Intas? I have read a few places that Intas is just 50% sugar, though I have no way to tell. Also, am I an idiot for not buying the powder?

 

[pinpoint]

So, sorry guys, I don't have the time, and I honestly don't feel like, sifting through 38 pages of posts. So if you don't mind me asking, which do you guys prefer? Consern or Intas? I have read a few places that Intas is just 50% sugar, though I have no way to tell. Also, am I an idiot for not buying the powder?

(Sorry mods if this is considered brand discussion)

Etizest > Etilaam > Powder (unless you have a lab test and mg scale) > Pellets

Of course that is my opinion, but others have confirmed.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ I concur

 

[dstr8427]

Are the blisters the same thing as pellets?

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

No.
Blisters are made by a pharmaceutical company.
Pellets are put together with pill binders and however much etiz powder the vendor making them feels like putting in them, issue with that is..
You don't know the purity of the powder used in making vendor pellets, and they could put in .5-1mg and call it a 2mg pellet and make money off deception.
You know when you by blistered pharma produced pills, that they are held to at least some standards.

That's my opinion on the subject.

-HOOD

 

[jamesBrown]

DAmn. Deezy still here after all this time. that's crazy. off topic, my bad.

 

[zip]

(Sorry mods if this is considered brand discussion)

Etizest > Etilaam > Powder (unless you have a lab test and mg scale) > Pellets

Of course that is my opinion, but others have confirmed.

Why rank even branded pellets over 99% pure powder?

 

[pinpoint]

I didn't rank pellets over anything. And "99% powder" means nothing unless you have a reliable lab test AND a mg scale. Without both these things the powder may as well be baking soda. That's why I said unless you have these two things. Of course if you have both then powder is > *

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

DAmn. Deezy still here after all this time. that's crazy. off topic, my bad.

(-off topic, but mods I'll be quick i promise-)

Hey! How you been? Yeah, im back.. took a year hiatus to clean myself up a bit.
I thought of you the other day when someone was concerned about bowel compaction from opiate use.
I gave them a link to what you had been through.. it's no joke.
You're thread on that subject showed a few newer people it's nothing to fool with.
I remember you (and all us other old regulars) but im sorry that THAT is the first thing that comes to mind when i think of you lol, but we were all concerned back then. Probably so much as to that's why it stuck in my head after all this time.
PM me if you wanna shoot the shit sometime (no pun intended lol).

(-All done with my off topic post mods, just wanted to say "hey" to an old friend from here.. carry on!-)

-HOOD

 

[KyleOpium]

Hey all, today was my first day using Etizolam. I consumed about 4 mg throughout the day (I have no tolerance to any gabaergics including alcohol.) I would take 1, and then 4 or 5 hours later when it wore off, I'd take another. I just took my last mg for the day for bed. I find them alright for anxiety, but it feels like there's some sort of anti-depressant or ssri activity going on in the background. Maybe that's just me imagining things. Anyway, how many days in a row would you say is okay to use etizolam without having any withdrawals or rebound anxiety. Insomnia is the main thing I am worried about though, as I work 14-16 hours per day, and need as much sleep as I can get. Thanks.

 

[desolate18zx2]

Hi there, my cat was wondering if he got bodgy etizolam in the mail today. This is the first time he has tried these and having experience with diazepam he figured it was around a ratio of 1=10diaz. He had been off the bench for quite a long time (many many months) so his tolerance should not be high whatsoever.

Meowingtons took one 1mg pill a few hours ago then another two an hour ago and now another 2 adding up to 5mg of etizolam taken in the last few hours and I am only feeling maybe a slight effect.. If any... Did he get bad generics? They are branded combitic global called from India..the 5 should have been equiv to 50mg of Diaz. Any ideas please help. Also this is his first post on the forum so I hope that did not break any rules. Cheers

Now up to 7mg ttotal around half an hour ago... Feeling quite relaxed and slight diazepam feelings... Yet according to my readings that should be like 70mg Diaz..... Feels more like 20-25...help?

Sorry for the edit, I should probably mention I am also taking ended and cymbalta daily. (anti depressant and anti anxiety drugs that don't really work for me) safe combo with the etzis?