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[Paris1559]

My first meth issue came last week. I use coke often and have ADHD and bi polar and am on an anti phy med. the meth wasn't working right. So I started with .20 day 1 And ended at .4 on the 7th day each day I did go to bed about 10 got up at and started a new bag about 10. I consumed protein drinks. I did this as a diet. Stupid I know. Ian sleeping everyday most of the day but for the next few days I have a few times I have to be on point for a few hours at a time. I'm only doing enough coke to get thru the meetings or get togethers and coming home and sleeping. I have Valium I take at night,
any suggestions or thoughts on how long I'm going to be lifeless. Coke I can moderate and stop. I will never do meth again but I'm not craving meth and already on an antidepressant. Once I'm through this I'm going clean all together I have too much to loose.




thank you for your support
Bella

 

[CaseFace]

From what I can gather you've been a moderate cocaine user and recently had your first devilish binge after graduating to meth. Is that right?

It's really good that you're seeing now how much you have to lose. It seems like this is only the beginning of what could possibly become a life changing addiction if not prematurely interrupted so I commend you for having the courage to admit this needs to stop now before it's too late! Not an easy thing to admit by any means.

My experiences with meth in the past only include binges similar to this, no prolonged addictions for more then a couple weeks. I also realized very quickly that it was NOT a road I wanted to go down, especially since I had already been a heroin addict on and off for 5 years. So anyway, to answer your question the zombie feeling will probably last anywhere from a day or 2 to upwards of 4-5 days if not longer depending most probably on your own personal body chemistry, intensity of the binge, and your food and water intake from here on out as well as sleep schedule. The best way to recover quickly and painlessly would be to totally stop using cocaine as well, not just meth - drink tons of water, more then you think you need - Eat 3 healthy meals/day minimum and sleep a minimum of 6 hours if possible, up to 8 hours/night. Over sleeping however can potentiate zombie like feelings so be weary of that possibility if sleep does come easily for you. Most important thing is probably diet and drinking enough water - next to staying clean of course, thats obviously numero uno for getting out of the zombie zone.

You got this! Kick the shit now before it becomes too difficult, you seriously won't regret it...

 

[Paris1559]

I fucked up bad...... Read my latest post I'm so angry, disgusted and ashamed...

thank you for sharing

Bella xo

 

[neversickanymore]

Loose the guilt and shame Paris.. it does us no good, makes us miserable, is not justified, and drives use.

You have a whole jumble of medications and substances that partially oppose and partially enhance one another.

What is it that you are getting positive from the use of the coke? coke and BP is an slippery combination as its pretty easy for us to slip into psycoses. I realize that the anti psychotic would help to prevent this but it also likely curtails the desired effects.

If you are BP2 have you tried lamictal, IMO a really good medication, with very few side effects.

If you want to share if your BP1 or BP2 this may help with responses.

Also you may want to look at this as it is my opinion that once we are addicted its impossible to heal in a week or two. Addiction isn't the inability to get clean, its when we have trouble staying clean. So addicts, especially stimulant addicts can stay clean for long periods, but then find themselves triggered, craving, or being driven to use in other ways.

Addiction Guide

sorry for all the questions, just share whatever your comfortable with.

 

[Paris1559]

Thank you for taking the time to offer some direction.


to start I am bp1 I am primarily manic depressive and cycle up 3-4 a year for about a 2 week interval. I also have ADHD. I am on Risperdone, Wellbutrin, and diazepam. I am not medicated for my ADHD due the precaution in their choice of meds are not what I need. They already have a risky combo of meds going and trying new meds makes me cycle or go crazy. Yes I know what I'm doing is making a dangerous cocktail. The Risperdone and ADHD apparently blocks the meth from giving me the high like others so I end up consuming it like coke. Note I snort it. It at times actually makes me tired and everyday I'm in bed by ten every night and up at 7.... I have learned to hydrate and drink high protein shakes. This is great for weight loss. I only tried the meth due to coke being unavailable for almost a month. Hence the last 3 weeks of creating a new addiction. The coke help me focus and perform better at work and think more openly and creatively all of which is my upper. Luckily I just got a text that coke is on its way, as I lay here from an od. During my horrible and scary experience of almost dying, praying to god to save me and I'll never do drugs again. I'd like to say I won't but we all no that me lying to myself..... I'll give it another couple days to recover and honestly I will probably start taking small bumps of coke to clear this fog I'm living in. Cold turkey to both would be to obvious and I have for to many responsibilities to stop my life. I can take my coke and leave the meth behind which I feel is the lesser of the two demons. Then closely moderate a wean of the coke and emotionally prepare myself to stop then just stop. Tell the dealers not to call delete all texts and contact info ect. I don't go out often so running into the wrong people situation doesn't happen. Yes cravings, triggers like music, my mood it's a Friday I have extra money ect... Yes I do fight the battle but after a few months of being clean life feels so good you just live life and think back about what a waste of my life, not really being there truly enjoying special moments clean with no guilt or shame makes it worth it. But yes a year 18 months little by little it starts you justify I only use a a gram in 3 days,,, okay I'm staying clean this weekend but then I the back of your head your waiting for the day to come to get it. All drugs steal your life and relationships. For me one phase at a time, game plan, mind set, commitment. I'm sorry but I need my coke to leave this ugly drug behind me. Moderate, wean it, break it struggle with bad ideas and cravings for a couple months start kick boxing again. And enjoy a clean and sober life for as long as I can. One day I hope I never fall off my clean life again...
god give me direction, strength and determination to overcome my weaknesses.

 

[neversickanymore]

Good to see your still around paris.. your od thread was moved to other drugs.

 

[Paris1559]

Why did I get moved? No one will see me in here..... . I need to talk to people don't stick me in a whole.... PLEASE...

is my situation to complicated?

Bella

Paris is my dog...

 

[herbavore]

Bella, it was only your other thread that got moved so no worries--you are still here!

How is it going today?

 

[neversickanymore]

I moved your thread to Other Drugs as it was suited for there. It has the most views on the whole board I think.

How are you doing Bella. Your situation does worry me. You are combining substances that often can have very negative effects when taken together. You are also doing this on top of having a illness that is associated with the neuro chemicals that these substances effect.

You are on a ant psycotic.. this is a dopamine antagonist. It blocks dopamine receptors.

You are on the Wellbutrin..

the primary pharmacological action of the drug is as a mild dopamine reuptake inhibitor and also a much weaker norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor as well as a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor antagonist.

You have an cocaine addiction , cocaine is a

cocaine acts as a serotonin–norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitor,

You just were on a meth bender. Methamphetamine

as a potent full agonist of trace amine-associated receptor 1 (TAAR1), a G protein-coupled receptor (GPCR) that regulates brain catecholamine systems.[46][47] Activation of TAAR1, via adenylyl cyclase, increases cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) production and either completely inhibits or reverses the transport direction of the dopamine transporter (DAT), norepinephrine transporter (NET), and serotonin transporter (SERT).

Methamphetamine and Cocaine

So you are taking drugs that prevent interaction with dopamine receptors, prevent dopamine re absorption, and that is a full agonist that also prevents dopamine re-absorption or even causes it to flow backwards.

This is a very bad idea. It is way to much and contradictory manipulation and is likely to have limited positive effect and also has a great chance to have negative results like you experienced last night.

The use of stimulants by people with bipolar is a topic that is being debated and hopefully reserched better. It has long been thought to cuase (hypo) mania in people but this may not be the case.

Stimulants in Bipolar Disorder: Beyond Common Beliefs

Psychotic and Manic-like Symptoms During Stimulant Treatment of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder


I would recommend that you start to work on your cocaine addiction as mixing the drugs you have been is not a good idea.

 

[Paris1559]

A friend dropped of some coke for me. I'm feeling pretty depressed. I did a bit but it didn't help so I put it away. I don't have anything to do to day and I'm still not 100% back to normal so I think I'm going to just try to sleep thru this. I had to give my german shepherd to a new home cause she got in a fight with the neighbor dog and my landlord said she had to go that she was now a liability. I'm feeling not so good emotionally so it's best I not dabble with the coke it makes me moods worse when I'm really upset.

thank you for all your support and helpful information it means a lot there are only Two people that know I use but not to the degree I do so it feels good to be able to be on honest and not judged.

 

[neversickanymore]

Sorry to hear about your dog.. no problem about the support.. allot of good people and support on BL