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The Big & Dandy Methoxphenidine / MXP / 2-MeO-Diphenidine Thread

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So MXD has been in use with the guinea pigs now for just over 3 months. 2g a week approx has be used, issued out in golden capsules under a marketed party name. Near 200 capsules have been sent out as local guinea pig food in the midlands. Capsules are 3/4 full. When taken it has been noted that the effect of MXD can take up to an hour to kick in, depending on the users metabolism, digestion, prior food intake and quantities etc (as you know it's based on many individual complex factors)

HOWEVER, the results are generally the same, a nice bobbling feeling, enhances creativity and focus, guinea pig's reports have concluded a very productive chemical during whatever tasks undertaken, whether working, playing, designing, imagining, creating, talking... whatever the guinea pig has been doing whilst MXD effects are in full flow seems to boost the guinea pigs capabilties. It seems to allow much multi-tasking to occur in a natural flow. Very interesting chemical. Much like ketamine in ways yet also nothing like it in others. MXD lacks in the deeper trip and psychological adventures which Ketamine is good and well known for. MXD is more of a light-hearted ketamine experience I would say, it allows guinea pigs to continue with their daily activites without being to off the mark from normality.

Over these 3 months or so the guinea pigs have been one on one, individual and also communed together in a pack. The surroundings have been varied, relaxed trusted house parties, or friendly business venture idea meetings, the parks, the shops, public, remote etc... and the guinea pigs have experienced the ups and downs to the fullest extent of what has been deemed a suitable amount = 3/4 capsule intake.

Guinea pigs have tried a larger quantities but it seems pointless to exceed the 3/4 capsule measurement. The effects intensify but do not change. All a larger dose seems to do is intensify the focus which can actually turn into a negative or unsatisfied experience due to being stuck in "time loops" and intense moments. This has lead to confuse the guinea pigs conversations and can sometimes cause a negative patches in social situations due to guinea pigs each being uncertain of time and focus. Each guinea pig can then start to panic internally thus causing adverse effects such as slight paranoia. This could easily be turned into vast paranoia if in the wrong surroundings. With even just a slight feeling of uncertainty within a guinea pig, if left to develop without a leader to realise it is drug not consciousness, it is plausable that it could lead to negative situations and emotions, conversations can turn into silence as guinea pigs withdraw into their thoughts trying to grasp reality, read there surroundings in a intense focus leads to unfocus and unreality.

However! If this happens, the buzz will naturally dim so even if noone is brain-strong enough to realise the wormhole of doom and pull others out too, once the buzz calms then the mood naturally changes back to a more comfortable situation.

Over 3 months of usage it is pretty clear to me that 3/4 capsule measurement is spot on, and with the knowledge and understanding that the guinea pigs have all become accustomed to whilst on this substance, they are now learning to intake and use the drug for beneficial reasons such as creativity, making music, products to sell, designing art, writing books etc.

Some have stated it could be a ketamine alternative, I disagree to the point that MXD does not seem powerful enough to be able to self analyse to the required depths needed to alter psychological states on a more permenant scale, it rather seems to contradict the ability in some ways as it is more pushed towards forward thinking and creativity rather than reflecting and self thinking. Ketamine is still, for me, the key to many mental health issues surrounding depression/anxiety/bipolar effects etc. MXD is a very good substitute in times when ketamine is unavailable such as it seems to be around the Midlands of what I have noticed so far since January time.

Ketamine is very rare in the underground midlands at this point but all guinea pigs (20+) have confirmed MXD is a nice alternative to help ease to void of soul searching mental issues.
 
I got on a train with a pair of Scotsmen who had obviously been drinking all night( this was 10.15 a.m.) They were insistent that I have a can of Purple with 'em. I opined that my mother wouldn't approve and it was instantly "Oh aye it's a good boy that loves his auld ma". "Yer ok son" etc. I'd had about 90 mg. Interesting times.........
 
does anyone else have this "feels like 2C-D tofu"-feeling with MXP in regards to combinations?
 
I'm fascinated to try MXP. I was a fan of the arylcyclohexylamines before their UK ban. I would often take them in low doses for their more subtle sub-trippy effects. This sounds perfect for that. If this remains legal, I'll pick some up after I get out of the psych ward.
 
I got on a train with a pair of Scotsmen who had obviously been drinking all night( this was 10.15 a.m.) They were insistent that I have a can of Purple with 'em. I opined that my mother wouldn't approve and it was instantly "Oh aye it's a good boy that loves his auld ma". "Yer ok son" etc. I'd had about 90 mg. Interesting times.........

Lol

"My mother wouldn't approve of me drinking alcohol, she does not condone any substance use other than sporadic use of 2-meo-diphenidine" =D sorry but that's funny haha
 
Wow never holed on anything to the extent I did on MXP the other night at around 300 mg or so. This is despite years of dissociative use (DXM, MXE, K). I was laying in my bed and thought I got up to go to the bathroom with my headphones in listening to Tame One - The Hell or Highwater EP, on my iphone. Saw a roommate and thought I accidentally ran into him. Went into the bathroom and couldn't get the light to turn on and tried to take out my headphones but they wouldn't seem to come out so I go back to the room and have the same trouble with lights not turning on. Then tried to take my headphones out and got them out but they kept "multiplying" and no matter how many I pulled out they were still in there and finally got a light to turn on and confirmed I had taken out several (15+) pairs. So I thought cool extra end pieces. Then I was outside walking around "my neighborhood" but it wasn't actually the neighborhood I live in I ran around and jumped and landed on my ass but couldn't feel anything. Then saw a "family" walking down the road and jumped over their baby carriage several times and did 360s and shit. Then realized this was impossible and I was not in my neighborhood and "jumped" out of the OOBE hole. Still in my bed with the one pair of headphones which finally came out with no problem. I realized what had happened and was pretty impressed and tried to go back in it but just had intense dxmish CEVs. Still pretty nice but wow what an experience. Will attempt the same dose again in a month or so. Wow, is all I can say.
 
I have never experienced a hole, but that sure sounds a lot like a dream to me. In fact, not being able to switch lights on/off is one of the classic dream issues (the type of thing that people look for to recognize that they are dreaming so that they may become lucid).
 
Would hcl MXP be safe to IM?
It was my favourite roa for mxe and ketamine.

I was thinking of starting at around 30mg (I have slight mxe tolerance)
Thanks guys
 
Heres some things Id like to add from what Ive learnt from an experience with 80mg of Methoxphenidine.

Dose: 80mg Oral. (No recent disassociate tolerance)

Duration: Roughly 8 hours to return to 10% baseline. Builds very slowly for 1 hour, probably up to 20% strength, peak effects around 2.5hour mark. (Note: I would like to emphasize the very SLOW build up of this, similar to DXM. The thought crossed my mind to add another smaller dose at 1hr+ mark thinking it was nowhere near strong enough. However with hindsight and it being very new I would suggest that if you try this definitely wait until 2hours in because the shift in strength from 1hour to 2 hours was significant!)

Experience: I would rate at 8/10, possibly 9/10, very enjoyable! As long as your not expecting MXE or Ket then this has potential. If you compare or expect effects similar I suspect you will be dissapointed as it is similar in some respects but also very different. I would probably describe it as being 70% feeling like DXM, 20% ket and 10% mxe. So mostly like DXM but certainly unique in its own right, a familiar ket glow sets in after awhile, a familiar sort of dopamine tension and stimulation like mxe undercurrent exists. Like I have heard some people describe, you do remain quite clear headed overall.

The physical sensations were pleasant. A definite analgesic property, this reminded me of ket, enjoyable to feel numb. I licked some dust when I first dosed and noticed that my mouth became numb (By the way though, the taste and smell is awful, very chemical like). It wasnt up there with how nice ket can make you feel however, this could be dependant on the persons preferences though. There was a stimulation that existed throughout, personally I prefer the more sedated feel, this made me want to move around a bit to get comfortable but I imagine for others they may prefer the stimulation and that you wont become totally glued into a sofa :p. I did notice that my heart rate was slightly elevated and I was sweating somewhat, I get similar with Mxe. I also felt a bit of jaw tension but also the good vibes from what felt like a dopamine action like mxe.

As a disassociative it was certainly very interesting. I would get that weird depth perception confusion, while watching a film in an extended scene I would feel like I was zooming out and the tv was becoming very strangely 3D. The foreground being right in front of me and the actors face a million miles away. Ive had this most prominently with K but also with Mxe and DXM.

Now the best part of the whole experience however.. Music! Ive seen others talk about how it makes music better, Ive had that happen with all sorts of drugs, appreciation of music increasing. But this was really fantastic. I watched the new coen Bros film, Inside Llewyn Davis, which on a side note is an incredible film and not just because I was enjoying MXP but it genuinly is a great film. I play guitar myself and folk / blues is my favourite genre so this helped but just listening to music was just absolutely brilliant. When Ive had mxe, it has had a similar effect and would also inspire some creativity in myself, this wasnt as good in terms of creative motivation but it wasnt far off.

So, in summary, this is certainly a very interesting new chem. I would have to say that 80mg is actually a bit high for a starting dose and 60 would probably be more ideal. I wouldnt reccommend redosing as it can be very deceptive. That 80mg turned out to be pretty significantly strong. I would say it is similar in comparison to (with no tolerance in my experiences so far) 75mg K, 35mg mxe or 350mg dxm. These are rough estimates though so take with a pinch of salt.

Just a few more notes: I didnt have any problem with peeing, I have seen others post about this but I went to the toilet fairly reguarly and with no problems. In fact I peed quite a lot and I drank quite alot of water, it felt dehydrating due to stimulation. It also came in waves almost, after the 3 hour point, it felt like it waned and increased on a steady overall decline over the next few hours. There is a very nice after glow the day after and also smoking weed throughout experience certainly mixes fantastically well and potentiates each other.
 
...I watched the new coen Bros film, Inside Llewyn Davis, which on a side note is an incredible film and not just because I was enjoying MXP but it genuinly is a great film...

Funny, I also watched Inside Llewyn Davis on MXP. I'm a huge Coen fan, but this one became my new favorite.
 
since the phenetylamine + MXE is one of my fav combos i tried this combo with MXP this time and gotta say: nothing like i'd ever expected!

while MXE adds a dirty "fucked up" feeling MXP does the exact opposite. It even took the shake and spastic shivers of PEA comeups away and added a warm, clean and total natural glow. my mind was so full of bliss and peace that it felt like a zen-like meditation. i'm a very visual person and always have my eyes open while tripping and am no CEV kind of guy but this time, closing the eyes was the best and most relaxing thing to do. just lay there in your bed, eyes closed, worlds of patters forming, total inner peace and a feeling as if your nerves get massaged from the inside with a warm, ticklish glow. a very peaceful energy that had me drifting zen-like for about 3 hours. pure inner healing. at the 4h mark i added MXE to see if there's more to it, but the dirtyness of MXE did rather take the bliss away instead of adding something further interesting.

my dosing was 50mg 3C-E and after 1.5h one gelcap containing 80mg MXP + 20mg 2C-D
will definitely try more PEAs and tryptamines with MXP
 
Obsidius when you are referring to PEA do you mean the 3C-E and 2C-D? I'm curious because I just discovered that one of the batches of diphenidine being distributed was actually methoxphenidine and phenylethylamine (PEA). I was excited to see that someone may have knowingly tried the combination, but then I got to the second last line of your post and just thought I'd ask for clarification.
 
I have never experienced a hole, but that sure sounds a lot like a dream to me. In fact, not being able to switch lights on/off is one of the classic dream issues (the type of thing that people look for to recognize that they are dreaming so that they may become lucid).
Yes I have definitely drifted into dream like states on this at very high doses. I've been saying before that a lot of the things going on on diphenidine closely resemble what I experience in dreams. That's primarily why I find the substance so fascinating.
 
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Funny, I also watched Inside Llewyn Davis on MXP. I'm a huge Coen fan, but this one became my new favorite.
All coen films are.......interesting but this one I couldn't get into as much. Maybe I need to watch again on mxp instead of mj.
 
Obsidius when you are referring to PEA do you mean the 3C-E and 2C-D? I'm curious because I just discovered that one of the batches of diphenidine being distributed was actually methoxphenidine and phenylethylamine (PEA). I was excited to see that someone may have knowingly tried the combination, but then I got to the second last line of your post and just thought I'd ask for clarification.

Substituted phenethylamines (PEA) ... rather large group of all the DOx, 2C, MDxx, NBOMe's ect... and as wikipedia states "Not to be confused with 1-phenylethylamine." :) if its the latter your batch might be impure? :/

Needless to say... methoxphenidine and mescaline analogues are a godsend! holy moly.
 
Just a quick word of warning, I dont normally post on these sites however i feel compelled to do so after the tragedy that has just befolded a close friend of mine! He is currently in a police cell in N.Ireland after stabbing his own mother in the chest! He had 10gs of MXP arrive on the post last friday and on wednesday past this tragedy unfolded! I dont like to speculate but apparantly he went out to a field in the back of his home naked where he covered himself in cow shit and when his mother came out he stabbed and killed her! Please stay away from MXP this is a true story and has been in the news however there is no mention of the drug it will come out eventually! So seriously stay away from this one!!!!
 
Holy shit, that's horrible. :( I'm sorry, this must affect you pretty significantly. I wonder if he even remembers?
 
What a terrible tragedy...

It sounds similar to one of those PCP overdose horror stories. Indeed be very careful with strong dissociatives.
 
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