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lauren12k

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When is the right time to redose on any MDxx substance? Should it be on the peak or after the peak?

One more question, is it safe to drink a small amount of alcohol just after you take it to ease the anxiety while you wait for it to kick in?
 
mate youll be fine. Just do it untill you dont feel it as much. You know when you have done too much md
 
When MDMA was used medicinally it was common practice to redose half the initial dose 1.5 hours later. Generally, it's not recommended to redose later than 2 hours after your initial dose because the longer you wait, the less serotonin you'll have available for the drug to use. Redosing after the peak is about the worst thing you can do, because by then your brain will be pretty deprived of serotonin and not only will your peak be weaker than the first one, you'll be more susceptible to neurotoxicity because the mechanism behind it relies foremost on low levels of serotonin.

Personally I always take 120mgs followed by 60mgs 1.5 hours later and roll hard for a good 7-8 hours doing that with little to no comedown/hangover.

Regarding alcohol, it's best to avoid when rolling. If you feel you must kill the anxiety somehow having 1 or 2 beers won't kill you or dull your roll. Honestly though, the md itself will kill your anxiety once it kicks in so why use alcohol in the first place?
 
Redose about an hour after the initial dose. A small amount of alcohol is okay. But if you can avoid it, it's even better.
 
7-8 hours is bullshit.
You can roll with 2 servings somewhere near 4-5 hours. (if your tolerance is not high)
 
If you care about neurotoxicity, then do not redose. Taking more at once will be less neurotoxic then redosing throughout the night.

But, if you must redose, please do some research into antioxidants and other such neuroprotective compounds. Stay safe.
 
Desohigh said:
7-8 hours is bullshit.
You can roll with 2 servings somewhere near 4-5 hours. (if your tolerance is not high)
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everyone's brain and gear is different mate. i'm just sharing my personal experience here. The point was that redosing in the manner i suggested is acknowledged by medical practitioners who used MDMA to enhance the peak with little side effects and that has been my experience as well, YMMV. regarding how much longer your peak will last, in my the case of me and my mate it's 7-8 hours(and personally i get a good 4-5 hours roll from just 1 dose), you might get 4-5 and i've read a report on erowid where a girl was still going strong 12 hours after a single dose.

Don't take what i said as boasting, i'm just trying to get the point across that it's very personal and also depends on the quality of what you're taking.

lauren12k said:
Thanks for the advice, it was really helpful
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You're most welcome :) although i'm sad to read your body isn't reacting well to this sort of past time.
 
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When you redose do you normally take half of what your original dose was? I've always just taken 1 pill then another pill when im ready. Have you done both ways, and what felt better?

Also thanks for the info about taking it 2 hours later and neurotoxicity
 
gibnihtmus said:
When you redose do you normally take half of what your original dose was? I've always just taken 1 pill then another pill when im ready. Have you done both ways, and what felt better?

Also thanks for the info about taking it 2 hours later and neurotoxicity
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Yep, always redosed 60mg 60-90 mins after taking a 120mg bomb, didn't notice an increase in side effects or a worse comedown than i'd get from just dropping one bomb. That said though, I never tried taking more when starting to come down so can't comment on it from personal experience, but the general consensus seems to be that the peak is weaker with the second dose and the comedown is more annoying/pronounced.

You're very welcome :)
 
badrobot114 said:
Yep, always redosed 60mg 60-90 mins after taking a 120mg bomb, didn't notice an increase in side effects or a worse comedown than i'd get from just dropping one bomb. That said though, I never tried taking more when starting to come down so can't comment on it from personal experience, but the general consensus seems to be that the peak is weaker with the second dose and the comedown is more annoying/pronounced.

You're very welcome :)
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Thanks for replying. Do you redose more than once? I'm going to an event soon and its about 8 hours long and I wanna make sure I roll til the end of the event or through it. If you do redose more than once, does it go like this:

00:00 - Drop 1
01:30 - Drop 1/2
03:00 - Drop 1/2
04:30 - Drop 1/2
etc... for every 90 min.

or what would you recommend for making it last longer?
 
gibnihtmus said:
Thanks for replying. Do you redose more than once? I'm going to an event soon and its about 8 hours long and I wanna make sure I roll til the end of the event or through it. If you do redose more than once, does it go like this:

00:00 - Drop 1
01:30 - Drop 1/2
03:00 - Drop 1/2
04:30 - Drop 1/2
etc... for every 90 min.

or what would you recommend for making it last longer?
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This i would not do this at all. The drop at 4:30 is useless and will only make your comedown 10x more worse. i suggest doing max 2 redoses but you wont feel much from that 03:00 drop but it will give you a more speedy effecct tho if thats what your looking for.
 
cloudio said:
This i would not do this at all. The drop at 4:30 is useless and will only make your comedown 10x more worse. i suggest doing max 2 redoses but you wont feel much from that 03:00 drop but it will give you a more speedy effecct tho if thats what your looking for.
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I agree with cloudio, your brain should be out of juice by 3:00 and more md at that point will be wasted and just mong you out later on. md is a 6-7 hours drugs at best, you just can't force it to go on, it doesn't work like that. lighting up some herb towards the end will give you more up time. you can ride out those remaining 2 hours on the afterglow as you will still feel good and have some residual energy going. Personally the best way I found to unnaturally extend a roll is forego the booster and drop some 2CB when you start coming down, I don't know how it works but there's some magical interaction there in that the 2CB will have you peaking again and just won't let the roll die until the trip is over, the combined effects are nothing short of pure rapture. No comedown issues later as well which is absolutely astonishing to me.

You could also drop a little later in the evening, say an hour after arriving at the place and getting familiar with it?

I'm gonna assume you don't have access to 2CB though so my aforementioned advice applies: drop, boost with half and light up towards the end. Should do you good for 6-7 hours if your tolerance is low and your gear is good. I'm afraid it's the best you can do.
 
^ Agreed, you should not be redosing more than once most times. Taking more 3 hours after the original dose isn't going to do much but give you an awful hangover.


I take a ~150mg with a 100mg redose, that keeps me going for a good 5-6 hours with little to no negative effects. Just wait an hour or two before dropping when you get to the event, it's not like it won't be fun if you aren't completely fucked on drugs :\
 
Folley said:
^ Agreed, you should not be redosing more than once most times. Taking more 3 hours after the original dose isn't going to do much but give you an awful hangover.


I take a ~150mg with a 100mg redose, that keeps me going for a good 5-6 hours with little to no negative effects. Just wait an hour or two before dropping when you get to the event, it's not like it won't be fun if you aren't completely fucked on drugs :\
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thanks for the advice, you are right that I don't have to be completely f'ed up to enjoy the event. I'll probably start whenever someone good comes on then redose at the end of their set, then coast the rest of the night.

I wish I knew the amount of mdma in my stuff :( Am I allowed to ask if people know the amounts of mdma of a certain pill on this forum?
 
You can ask, but pills will vary widely depending on the location and which batch it is.. your best bet is to use a tool like pillreports.com to guage the relative contents
 
would this thread be the right place to ask?

Just in case it is: I live in southern california. I have green stars. I've had them before and I've tested them with a marquis reagent. I know they're good but I don't know the range of mdma thats in them. If anybody knows please let me know. Thanks!
 
^ You'll have to be waaaayyy more specific.. there's probably 10 or 20 different "star" presses circulating just in the US


But no, this isn't the right place for that. Try Pillreports Discussion (PRD), just a bit up the page from ED when you click "Forum"
 
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