Sounds kinda amaturish rhun, post a picture please!
Just to clarify, I live in CA and we just have BTH.
Which is why it's kind of amusing when people claim they have super fire dope and they were fucked up on some tiny amount.
I have good hooks and some of the best stuff makes me nod out but I've just never found dope that's knocked me on my ass.
But like I said, I think it's just tolerance. I can never even tell I'm on methadone, even before I started tapering and they upped my dose really quickly.
Nodding that hard to the point you're falling unconscious is never a good thing. Usually, if you're at that point, you're not far off from OD'ing. The line is very thin between super high and nodding hard, and respiratory depression.
thats why i dont like methadone and dont consider it actualky getting clean..sure youre not using dpe but the 'done is still getting ylu high at least at first and then then its years process getting off that shit and its often harder then dope. thats why i like subs and thats why people who have used 'done, do not like subs. cause it takes that suckness awa but it does nothing for the craving really so you have to be mentally strong . like to get high i need to sniff like .4-.5 of raw but i know that if mponey is low and i cant get to the bank or whatnot, im perfectly ok with swiching my mind up and taking my half gram and making it stretch over 3days, even though when i bought it i planned on snorting it all that night and getting high and just leaving a little extra like i always do.
does anyone else do that? no matter how much or how little dope i buy and plan to use, i will always take out a little and save it for the next day. even if i dont get high on what i used, i wont bust into the leftover cause i already k now its not gonna be enough to push me over the edge and get high, its just enough to take the sick away when needed..
The strange thing is that each time I've been woken up, I've remained completely conscious afterward. Still high, but not nodding in any way, as though all my nod got put into that so-called nap.
I know people that have done really well with bupe. And I've even heard it being used off label to treat depression.
But it's not for everyone, and I don't think it's effective for people with really big habits.
TBH, nothing you said in your first paragraph applied to my experience with methadone at all. There's a lot of stigma and stereotypes surrounding methadone that aren't true in all cases. I was on methadone for 3 months before I started my taper and I should be off in 6 months at the very longest, though I'm trying to decrease my dose as much as I can without being too uncomfortable. The first day I did methadone I was not "high" per say, just felt warm and comfy. But this was after being in WD all day because they tell you not to use for 12 hours before coming in and the paperwork takes 2 hours. After that first day, I've never felt any effects since. Some people get high in the beginning if they have a lower tolerance, but no matter what eventually at some point everyone stops feeling it. Except those who chase the high up to 300+mgs. I had cravings on methadone as well but somehow found the urge resist 8)
You have to go to the methadone clinic daily for months till you get your first take home. If you miss days, you don't get take homes. This gives them enough time to get you on a high enough dose so that it blocks all other opiates. So methadone patients cannot use other drugs. Bupe doesn't have these restrictions so users can stop taking their meds long enough to get high in some cases. Both bupe and methadone can be life saving treatments, I'm not trying to make a case for one or the other. But to say you're not clean while on methadone but you are on bupe is ridiculous.
I've also worked two jobs for most of my life. And while I will be the first to tell you that I'm dependent on opiates and definitely could not just stop using, I can definitely control myself. When I was shooting dope and needed my supply to last 3 days, I did. Some people can't control themselves and can't keep down a job while using but others can. Neither of us are unique in that sense.. just not sure what you're asking there. Please clarify.
^It bothers me too, if someone is just leaing forward nodding and not coming in and out of it, it freaks me out....because I've seen a lot of times that when you do check on that person, they're already losing color/oxygen and there's been quite a few times that I had to slap someone, shock them with water...or do chest compressions....
and YES, slapping people and flicking cold water on people/putting ice on someones testicles sometimes is the only thing that brings them out of it short of CPR or naloxone.....anyone who wants to refute that, I don't wanna even have that converstation because there's mountains of anecdotal evidence that prove it's true.....
And the argument that you should just give somebody naloxone right away, or throw someone down and do chest compressions first......well....
for one, naloxone isn't available in every situation where you may be IVing heroin.....
for 2, you often can break peoples ribs and cause deep bruising doing chest compressions.....
I always try shocking them with some sort or stimulation first and THEN go into panic mode and start using emergency measures....
sorry if I seem defensive, but I wanted to post this now rather than have to respond later when some genius comes on here and tries to tell me that slapping/splashing water/pinching people doesn't work......It may not work if someone is already over the line, but if somebody is right on the edge, it's sometimes the only thing that works....
So I got these viagra bags an everyones tellin me they're fire but I did a whole sub this mornin so I gotta wait till 2moro nite 2 get high an everyone else is gettn high 2nite. I'm pissed.