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Has anyone here tried mdma in low doses? (40 to 60 mg) I'm interested in it's therapeutic potential (if there are any) for social anxiety.

If i were to take a low dose of mdma before a social gathering of some sort, would it help me in being more social and talkative? Would it be noticeable i was on a drug?

I'm aware of the dangers of mdma. I would only be doing this on very few social occasions.

Social anxiety is strengthen by negative experiences during social interactions and not by avoidance as many people believe. I was thinking maybe a low dose of mdma could ensure some positive experiences in particular challenging social situations and build from there?

I have tried cognitive behavioral therapy and it did't work. I have been offered medication, but i declined. I don't like the idea of taking medicine everyday. I don't believe it's effective in treating social anxiety either.

I'm going to try mdma for the first time next week and i'm not interested in rolling hard and partying. I'm interested in it's effects in low doses only.

Anyone here with some experience in taking low doses of mdma occasionally?
 
I know there was a documentary on this. They never said the doses, but after a few times a rape victim became a social butterfly. But it all depends on the person I guess.
 
Have you addressed the negative experience you encountered in your social situation that triggered this? Is facing this head on and understanding that it was probably a one off not safer than taking something like MDMA to avoid a situation that may not even happen. What would you consider a particular challenging situation?

What strikes me is that if you were going to be comfortable enough around these people to take something like MDMA then how do you perceive anxiety from the situation.
 
Ive heard of treating Social anxiety with very pure and high doses of MDMA but you need someone who knowes what their doing. I woulnd use it for social anxiety to dangerous. Even in low doses it takes way to much seretonin from your brain. IT wont be able to regrow fast enough. Drugs really arent a sulucion for anxiety. YOu should try going to a natural therapist that knows what hes doing. ITs really works wonders.!
 
MDMA has helped my social anxiety in some regards - but only with people I meet while rolling which is only ever at a rave. The sad part being that of course I will not really see these people again. I agree with your point about how social anxiety reinforces itself through negative experiences, its like a self-fulfilling prophecy in some regard.

Just like negative experiences reinforce the anxiety, positive experiences help to overcome it. In my opinion, MDMA can provide these positive experiences that help to overcome the awkwardness which also transfers onto to sober interactions with the people you met while on MDMA.

Not so sure about low doses though - it may provide an adequate placebo effect to overcome that initial anxiety. You obviously express concerns about being noticeabley on MDMA which is definitely a problem if you're with others who are strictly against "drugs." I'm not sure how noticeable 40-60mg would be, but you could always wait for a social situation where it may be appropriate to wear sunglasses and try it then. The chances of you gurning or excessively sweating on such a small amount are slim so you should be ok in that department.

I have been tempted to try taking MDMA while clubbing instead of drinking but I share your concerns over being noticeably on MDMA. If only it was accepted. After a night out on MDMA - no regrets, in fact the opposite. Morning after drinking - what the fuck was I doing.....!?

Best of luck mate
 
Hey,

I've used small doses of MDMA for therapeutic reasons. Typically 50mg when I'm suicidal. I've found, however, that my anxiety increases (Although I considered it a good trade off for depression). It sounds counter intuitive, but if you know the dangers associated with MDMA (Dehydration, dilutional hyponatremia, hyperthermia, hypothermia, etc) then they tend to be all you can think of when using it. 50mg doesn't seem - to me at least - to be high enough to overcome all anxiety. It's not 'intense' enough, per se. There is mild euphoria and a buzz, but it's nothing compared to the real experience which rids you of all worry.

Besides that, you're anxiety will only be greater in the days following. Although I've found at low doses (<60mg) the post-MDMA depression isn't that bad as long as you take precautions (such as 5-HTP and multivitamins) it's generally not worth the risk unless you're desperate. You'll be trading, at best, one anxiety-free night for a possibly week or more of depression. You could get lucky, like I have someitmes, and get off free. But, again, I don't think it's worth it.
 
I tried this, but 50mg doesn't do anything for me (and I don't have a high tolerance)

120-150mg and a joint works great for this though

But yes, if you are feeling any effects, it's noticeable, even by people who don't use drugs. You just.. change
 
IME any dose below about 80mg and all you get is the edgey comeup feelings from MDMA none of the things I consider to be theraputic about MDMA (love, empathy,openness) I don't think MDMA can be used in the way you discribe. it might be a good was to keep yourself up for a few hours if you needed to stay awake. but other than that I dont see much value in low dose MDMA.
 
I think I read that the people conducting experimental PTSD therapy using MDMA were using a dose of 60 mg.
Although I agree that you don't get a full-blown roll with a low dose, I am fairly certain that my body reacts to a low dose, with increases in tactile awareness, relaxation, sensitivity and such.
I quite like a combination of a low dose of mdma and a small amount of speed.
 
I know a guy who said taking low doses MDMA would help him overcome anxiety while on acid. He is usually a little anxious and stuff, and he says that he gets less socially engaged on acid, but that a little MDMA drop helps him have a good time and be more socially engaged. Hope it could help you, I'd probably try it if I were you.
 
I've used a very low dose of MDMA (approx 50mg) just to loosen me up and take the edge of a social gathering before and it worked wonders. I was chatty relaxed and empathetic without that overwhelming "in another fucking state of being" sensation. I am sensitive to anything with any kind of psychedelic properties though.
 
I wouldn't use MDMA for social anxiety. It may work but I don't think it's wise to "colour" social interaction with the MDMA brush, so to speak - if social interaction is then "varnished" with the taste of MDMA, you'll find yourself constantly disappointed in the future.

I hope that metaphor makes some sense.

Try breathing awareness, or if you want to drug, very small doses of amphetamines.

Goodluck and peace :)
 
first timer? id say 50mg - 100mg

any less then that wouldnt affect you as much, and would probley be abit boring :p
 
Yes. About 50-60mg to start, (11pm) did not feel a rush or come up but rather mildly started smiling more and then felt very awake and happy for 2 hours, then a redose of 50-60mg again (1am). This time, the happiness increased and finally a little desire to dance kicked in. Around 2:00 am, I had 2 redbulls over the span of 2am-5am, at that time the effects were just a mild happy and clear headedness. I took tums and a peptobismal tablet before taking the first dose. Doing a lower dose to start really helped prevent the awful tummy ache and anxiety that accompanied the come up the last time I experienced mdma. I am a generally anxious person, so this really helped. The only thing about this method for me was that there were no strong waves or rolls, it felt like a pretty consistent pleasant feeling... no amazing rushes.
 
I don't like MDMA on low doses. I just get the comeup anxiety and none of the benefits. It also makes me kinda empathic, but not euphoric, so I get mostly sentimental and sad.
 
SpaceSquirrel said:
I don't like MDMA on low doses. I just get the comeup anxiety and none of the benefits. It also makes me kinda empathic, but not euphoric, so I get mostly sentimental and sad.
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I've experienced the same. What doses do you usually take for full effects?
 
luxray said:
What doses do you usually take for full effects?
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All I need is around 70-80mg mdma, that's half to 3/4 of a decent pill or ~100mg clean (but not pure) crystal.
I've tried taking half of that for curiosity twice and didn't like it.
 
I actually prefer low doses of MDMA - 50mg is lovely for fluffiness and tranquillity. Still gives pupillary dilation/bruxism but nothing on ~200mg doses.
Oddly, I tend to dose largely on related compounds (MDA, MDEA, etc.,.).
 
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