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Legality of Phenylethylamine.

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adam2893

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Is Phenylethylamine legal? I searched and couldn't find a clear answer whether it was or not, I want to buy some from [somewhere] but I want to know whether it falls under analogue laws or not. thanks for whoever can answer me :)
 
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Yes it is legal, im not sure if u need an import license for it though. My newest preworkout supplement contains some along with a few of its closely related cousins:)
 
Does it provide a slight boost i.e caffine for pre workout? Or somthing else?
 
Phenethylamine, similar to amphetamine in its action, releases norepinephrine and dopamine. However, when taken orally it is rapidly metabolized. Phenylethylamine's half-life is 5–10 minutes.

I got this information from Wikipedia, so it must be true.

However, a very skilled chemist (talking about in the range of Alexander Shulgin, crazy motherfucker that guy is! He basically was a guinea pig for his own drugs, a human guinea pig!) could manufacture amphetamine from PEA.
 
Yeah I had to give my pre workout away, took 2 scoops like I usually do with most pre workouts (Stupid me) and I was off my chops in the gym no joke. Got to a point where I was almost grinding my teeth. It contained phenylethylamine and a bunch of other stimulants. My energy levels were through the roof along with endurance, strength etc. Lasted 5-6 hours and couldnt get to sleep 10 hours after I took the stuff, it also killed my appetite completely and felt out of it the whole night just like when I have done a bunch of ice. My mate seems to love the stuff, takes 1 scoop only. Just a warning to everyone it is extremely potent! He takes few dif pre workouts but I ALWAYS know when he took the one with phenylethylamine hahaha, he just looks amped up and just talks and talks and talks. I got heaps of euphoria whilst on it and got incredible social with everyone at my gym lol. Like I mentioned before I cant handle any more stimulants from abusing them in the past but I could see this stuff being used recreational as well no joke! Its not long til this stuff gets banned completely IMO.
 
Sustanon, are you sure that it was just PEA? It says that it's useful for quick, short bursts of energy and euphoria, usually used in stacks.
 
Very interesting topic.

I recall GBH being advertised as a training supplement in Muscle and Fitness magazines in the 80's.

There were full page ads for it, along with GBH being used as an ingredient in various proprietary brands.

Initially it was purely for bodybuilding purposes....but then it made the leap into the recreational arena.......and thus, well, you know its current status.

Perhaps this too could see a similar transition.
 
Charles Bronson said:
However, a very skilled chemist (talking about in the range of Alexander Shulgin, crazy motherfucker that guy is! He basically was a guinea pig for his own drugs, a human guinea pig!) could manufacture amphetamine from PEA.
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Your right.

Phenethylamine is only 1 bit away from being amphetamine. You'd end up
with racemic amphetamine if you made it from phenethylamine though. It's such
a simple molecule, both amphetamine and phenethylamine, god-damnit.
 
DoctorChemX said:
Your right.

Phenethylamine is only 1 bit away from being amphetamine. You'd end up
with racemic amphetamine if you made it from phenethylamine though. It's such
a simple molecule, both amphetamine and phenethylamine, god-damnit.
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Yeowch. From what I've heard this is entirely legal and available as fitness supplements. Drug laws never cease to amaze me.
 
Nozphexezora said:
Yeowch. From what I've heard this is entirely legal and available as fitness supplements. Drug laws never cease to amaze me.
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My organic-chemistry skills are such that i have no-idea how one
would synthesize amphetamine from phenethylamine, i only know that
you'd certainly end up with 50% d-amphetamine(good stuff) and 50%
l-amphetamine(more physical) like when you make it from phenylacetone.

One would thing it would be very easy to synthesize amphetamine from
phenethylamine, given it's a tiny functional group of a difference(that little
stringy thing) but i guess that's not the case, i've never heard of amph
production from phenethylamine illicitly, so it must be a little more complex.

Phenethylamine is quite common in nature, it occurs in our bodies naturally
and i think some plants use it as a hormone, although i am not so sure.
 
Old bikies used to manufacture the shit from phenylacetone, got pleasant speed from that shit, read about the old timers during the 70's manufacturing amphetamine, it was apparently an intense rush, all the time, whichever way it was ingested, but then 1980 when the crackdown on MDMA and phenylacetone, bikies looked to more methods, such as abducting skilled chemists and telling them how to make their speed, hence the introduction of ephedrine/pseudoephedrine based speed, which makes d-methamphetamine, which lead to junkies being on the shit for 5 days and then crashing, yet in the old days of the 60's/70's when P2P-based amphetamine was around, people could stay up for 11 days straight and not be violent or aggressive or any of the bullshit that we see today with d-methamphetamine.
 
Ermmmm, what has that information got to do with this thread? Why are we even talking about synthesizing? Im sure if the OP or anyone is asking if it could be made from the particular chemical has very very little chemistry knowledge and this forum isnt the best source of information regarding that topic. Best bet would be to go on a chemistry forum as talking about synth isnt allowed here from my understanding.
 
what was the supplement u were taking sustanon? might try and get some my mates who work out to get some hehe
 
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Charles Bronson said:
Old bikies used to manufacture the shit from phenylacetone, got pleasant speed from that shit, read about the old timers during the 70's manufacturing amphetamine, it was apparently an intense rush, all the time, whichever way it was ingested, but then 1980 when the crackdown on MDMA and phenylacetone, bikies looked to more methods, such as abducting skilled chemists and telling them how to make their speed, hence the introduction of ephedrine/pseudoephedrine based speed, which makes d-methamphetamine, which lead to junkies being on the shit for 5 days and then crashing, yet in the old days of the 60's/70's when P2P-based amphetamine was around, people could stay up for 11 days straight and not be violent or aggressive or any of the bullshit that we see today with d-methamphetamine.
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i'd probably delete that thread man, it's a bit too much for LE.

Even though i agree with you 100% about the violent shit that d-methamphetamine is.
 
DoctorChemX said:
i'd probably delete that thread man, it's a bit too much for LE.

Even though i agree with you 100% about the violent shit that d-methamphetamine is.
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The Law Enforcement knows a million times more than what you think, if it was true they prob know. Its funny how most people underestimate there knowledge until one day they truly find out the hard way.
 
No more synth discussion guys, and fuck going from phenethylamine anyway... waste of time.

To OP: Phenethylamine is not listed on the Standard for the Uniform Scheduling of Medicines and Poisons (SUSMP) nor the chemical supply industry's code of practice for preventing diversion into illicit manufacturing. I have heard mixed things on PEA, from useless with no effect unless taken in high doses or with an MAOI, or having some effect from small to quite noticeable. Have never played around with it myself, only it's substituted cousins.
 
Trimethylglycine (Betaine Anhydrous), Creatine Monohydrate, L-Citrulline, Dendrobex (Dendrobium Extract) (Stem) (Concentrated For Alkaloid Content Including Dendrobine, Dendroxine, Dendramine, B-Phenylethylamine, N,N-Dimethyl-B-Phenylethylamince, And N,N-Diethyl-B-Phenylethylamine), B-Phenylethylamine HCl, Citramine (Citrus Reticulata Extract) (Fruit) (Concentrated For N-Methyltyramine Content), Caffeine Anhydrous.

PEA and it's derivatives are what we're talking about here, people.
 
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